Real Liberal Boulder

Tebo

2009-10-27T06:40:00.001-07:00

All over town, Tebo's empty buildings have these three signs.

David Thielen - lying Boulder blogger

2009-10-27T05:24:00.000-07:00

David Thielen-Thielen, our fake liberal blogger in Boulder, wants you to believe that the progressive ticket for Boulder is voting for Barry Siff and KC Becker. Typical of his Republican roots, David is lying to cover the real truth. Developer backed candidates whose model for Boulder is Broomfield and Highlands Ranch are anything but progressive. He criticizes the last 30 years of Boulder councils by saying that if they had gotten there way, NCAR would never have been built!!.

As usual, David is a moron who fundamentally does not understand why Boulder is a great town. but what do you expect from a failed computer entrepreneur. Boulder is great because of limited growth, plus an educated population with the University and Federal labs as anchors. Boulder is not great because of businessmen like Barry Siff, newcomers, who idea of vision is to build and grow us into an unlivable town, like Broomfield, Louisville, and Lafayette.

The Progressives in this town are the Sierra Club and PLAN-Boulder County. To deny this is to live in Highlands Ranch. Without these groups, there would be a line of housing extending south to Golden and southeast to Broomfield. Traffic would be a nightmare and city services and social services would be non-existence.

Dont' vote for registered Republican Siff. He is not a progressive. And David Thielen, he is one Boulder blogger that can't tell the truth.

Who will win.

2009-10-11T09:18:00.000-07:00

Boulder's stupid clueless political blogger. He hides behind the liberal label, but liberals don't go around saying "a man's home is his castle." David Thielin you are so transparent, these are code words for libertarian, and apparently you believe that the Camera blog relects the opinion of the community. The election results, like two years ago, will show just how clueless you remain.

The biz community going after Macon essentially ensures his reelection to a four year term. The opposition candidates are extremely week, with only KC having any experience or community ties. Barry Siff, wtf. Anybody with such a transparent "i know best" attitude (the kind that makes David Thielin pant with joy) cannot possiblely win a seat.

The biz community has not put up a strong enough slate to defeat Macon. Boulder is full of serious people who understand the growth issue, Barry Siff is not a serious person, he is a weird self promoter. That is not the kind of person who will get the 8,000 votes. (Barry, you will have no probelm winning in Broomfield, I suggest a move).

Candidates without any real ties to the community, like Barry Stiff and Feisty Fenno just can't get to the 8,000 number, even with the unlimited developer money they have. Stiff's involvment with the community, which consists of self promoting semi-athletic events, is not the type of involvement that makes any real difference in the community and getting people to support you.

KC is really the only serious opposition candidate. Sure, her switching sides on Planning Board to the growth side might cost her votes. But the conservatives and developers have no one else to vote for. And her background in Democratic politics is enough to make her a serious candidate though. She will get some of this vote.

The top vote getter last time was Ken Wilson. Ageton and Ken love their position as top vote getters, but that was under different circumstances when Suzy was totally unknown (as Ken was last time). Ageton is solidly pegged as a pro-growther now, and her busy body attitude has cost her a lot of the Democratic Women support that was key to her large vote total. The last council was elected to put a stop to Ruzzin and Ageton, which it did. So i don't see her as the number one vote getter in this election. The last election shows how things will play out.

Ken Wilson 9,815 10.4%

Crystal Gray 9,419 10%

Susan M. Osborne 9,155 9.7%

Lisa Morzel 8,808 9.3%

Angelique Espinoza 8,322 8.8%

Macon Cowles 8,236 8.7%

Matthew Appelbaum 6,838 7.2%

Susan K. Peterson 4,419 4.7%

Eugene Pearson 4,154 4.4%

Shawn L. Coleman 3,738 4%

Adam Massey 3,250 3.4%

There is nothing from the last election results that shows the Daily Camerag's wishes of a pro-biz council will happen. The only pure biz candidates, with no support from Sierra Club or the traditional Democrats, did very poorly. That was looser Adam. The only way for biz candidates to get on is to get some strength from other communities, and only KC has that. It would also presume the total disapparance of the PLAN boulder and Sierra Club vote, which is not going to happen in two years.

The Little Angel got her 8,000 votes by getting the biz vote and her deep involvement in Democratic Women. This is what KC has for this election and so this train wreck will either be fourth or fifth. The only chance of defeating her is if people see her candidacy as the deception that it is, which Boulder voters won't.

Macon is not in trouble. He lost the first time over name recognition, the people that voted for him last time will vote for him again. Thus, and easy 8,000 votes. In fact, he is likely to be the top vote getter. The 8,000 who voted for him last time knew exactly what he was going to do on council and he did it. Given the weakness of the candidates against him, people are not going to switch from Macon to Stiff and Fenno.

Applebaum did very poorly last time in a deep field. He actually will need more people to vote for him last time, which would make him a more viable pick off than Macon. But the 1500 people who voted for the other winners and not for him last election did not vote for him because of his reputation. I think that the hesitancy over his reputation is now gone. Suzy and Macon just need the same vote totals to win. While Suzy has lost votes, she has not lost enough to put her in any serious trouble. Apple will need to get 1500 people to vote for him who did not in the last election. This will be tough.

Suzy is probably ensured re-election. But remember how poorly Tom did in his waning years. I think that fourth place is possible for her. But she will probably be first or second.

So this leaves Fenno, Stiff, Raj, and Plass for the last seat. Fenno is a pure biz developer candididate, this does not get him to 8,000. That puts you in Adam Massey, Scott Gershorn territory of 3,000-5,000 votes, so no seat for him. Same with Stiff. Stiff is the Richard Polk of the election, with his own quirkly weirdness. But he also has a fatal "I know better" attitude that will not win him any friends. Likewise, Raj is in the Eugune Pearson range of votes, she will get all the liberals, but that is not enough to ger her out of the 5,000 range.

So Plass is the test and the likely fifth seat. If Boulder really has decided that it is not is not anti-growth, and that the last council was not put in place to limit pops and scrapes, then Tim is done. However, the desparate attacks of the money interests, the scrapebaggers, along with the Camera's attacks, illustrate just how unlikely all of that is. The Ruzzin council was elected secretly, people thought they were getting environmentalists, not developers. They were thrown out handily. Things have not changed, Newlands residents and developers are not even close to a majority. So the vote will be:

Macon - 10,000

Suzy - 8700

Appelbaum - 8250

Plass - 8200

KC - 8000

Scrapebaggers.

2009-09-16T06:15:00.000-07:00

Last nights city council election, complete with Teabagger party protest and kookiness, is the beginning of election season in Boulder. Despite the property protesters, Progressive Boulder liberal council will pass a strong tough pop and scrape ordinance. The crazyness of the developer protests, is that like the teabaggers, this protest is anything but grassroots, its all real estate money. And does anyone take Ruzzin seriously anymore? Everybody knows he is trying to develop his New-lands house.

The Daily Camera rag will, like Foxnews and the teabaggers, push the developer protest story to death, much like the Dick and Edie story, even though there is no real community support for their position. And just like the teabaggers, their loudness will have no real effect. Warren Hullquist has just ensured Macon's election to a 4 year term. With the election of Macon, the developers will have two more years in purgatory, giving the counsel a chance to firm up the Board's with liberals/environmentalists. If they were smart, they would go after Tim Plass. Applehead is not always a reliable vote. With Tim on the council, only Suzy and the little shit will be reliable votes for monster houses and shit-hole downtown buildings.

So the developers and the Camera will push the conservative/real estate money candidates. But this field of candidates is so week, they really have no chance other than to get KC on.

First offender is KC Becker. Have you seen her fucking yard signs? Its a picture of a mother throwing her child in front of a bulldozer, just sick. Easy Camera endorsement. They will praise here willingness to look at the tough issues and seek compromise. Fuck that, move to Broomfield with your developer husband. She is the real danger to environmental position on council

Barry Stiff is also the nextCamera endorsee. Uriah Heath will write a story for the Camera promoting his ability to see both side of the issue. Also, someone who would approve a developer building a four story high building on the cite of the Camera rags building they so desperately need to sell.

At this point, there is no one left to endorse. So they will have to endorse Matt. They will then review liberal pretender Thielin's blog and endorse whoever he picks.

Suzy is un-beatable. But she will never be mayor and has cemented her position as a generally disliked bitch. Why exactly does she want to be on council?

Macon and Matt will come in second and third. Both will get their four year term and create hell for Suzy and Ken. Liberals will control council with Lisa, Macon, Crystal, Matt, and Susan.

The real election is whether there will be any developer opposition that matters. Its between KC, Stiff, and Tim P.

Anti-neighborhood pro growth three

2009-02-24T20:09:00.000-08:00

Three on counsel in the developers pockets, per tonight's joint planning board. First Suzy Ageton, Short on ideas and long on political rhetoric about "property rights". Is this person really a Democrat.

Next offender is the short man. While his vague campaign blog,
http://www.kenwilson.org, indicates that he will solve the pop and scrap issue, his performance at the meeting tonight indicates a guy who never met a pop he wouldn't scrap.

If this guy smokes, he is the next Richard Polk. This guy puts the little in in shit.

Finally, the Little Angel, who proves that being cute means you really are dumb. Campaign "chest" full of developer money.

Dump Suzy Agetator

2008-12-03T06:33:00.000-08:00

Pro-growth, anti-downtown city councilperson Suzy Ageton reveals her true pro-growth colors at yesterdays city council meeting. According to yesterday's Daily Rag, Suzy thinks all those buildings going in downtown are too small, and are a benefit to the community. Time to dump the dip.

Accurate prediction yet again

2008-08-13T05:57:00.000-07:00

Unlike Rush Limbaugh/Ron Paul pretender Democrat David Thielen, RLB correctly predicts that the candidate to get 15,000 votes wins th 2 CD primary.

I didn't predict Joan would loose, but given her poor campaign and lack of presence in Boulder, its not a shock. Looking for theories for why should lost heavy union area Adams County.

Jared spent over $300 per vote. Hope his new hobby is worth it.

Rollie wins

2008-08-12T18:30:00.000-07:00

With early mail in votes candidate, Rollie wins easily. Cindy proves being nasty costs you an election. These results are not likely going to change, 1200 votes is to many to make up.

Cindy Carlisle 3,686 43% 40%

Rollie Heath 4,883 57% 53%
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Jared is winning Boulder by 300 and loosing Jefferson by 100. Denver post is showing him with 800 vote lead, which should be enough for him to win. Mountain counties could give this to Joan, but she is probably only looking at less than a 1000 voters in each county. I assume that Joan campaigned heavily in the mountains knowing that Boulder would split. But her poor campaign probably cost her.

Will is out, he could have cost Jared the election by the 500 votes Jared needs to win.

Cindy v Rollie

2008-08-06T06:02:00.001-07:00

This election was Cindy's to loose and she is doing a pretty good job of it. No endorsements from anyone of note, a crappy campaign, and a crabby personality. But Cindy may still be able to pull it off. Why? While politicians have universally endorsed Rollie, Cindy still has support of Democratic Women and core downtown people to get the votes she needs to win. While some have pealed off, their strength is so overwhelming in the district, its probably enough for her to win.

Rollie's only chance was to run a good campaign, which he did. He walked the entire district and met plenty of voters.

It takes 3500 votes to win the nomination.

Too close to call. How about Cindy 3800, Rollie 3300

Or: Rollie 3650; Cindy 3400.

Talk about covering my bases.

100% accurate election prediction.

2008-08-06T05:47:00.001-07:00

Real liberal Boulder correctly predicted all seven city council seats last November (though I missed the order of finish). Can I do it again. Of course! But this is much much tougher than the city council, because the forces at work are completely different.

Dummy libertarian David Thielen thinks Boulder has political elite that directs it. It does, but it doesn't work the way that rightie Thielen thinks it does. First, the newspaper in this town are not part of the political elite, the paper is quite to the right of the political elite in Boulder. Second, the political elite is not some kind of patronage network as Shaun Coleman thinks (which is why he is an utter failure as a city council candidate). This is a small town you two dumb guys, people know each other, and the political forces are shaped by Open Space politics, the neighborhoods, (especially (1) downtown and the Hill and (2) Table Mesa and Martin Acres), Democratic Women, and the University. That's it, nothing else.

Second CD. Riding my single speed down Mapleton Ave.. There are 13 Will Schafroth signs. There are no Polis signs or Fitz-Gerald signs. Mapleton Riding around Table Mesa, you don't see the same number of Will signs. Boulder liberals have rejected Joan in favor of Will. But Will is not cutting into Joan anywhere else in the District, he is killing Jared. Without Will in the race, Jared would win, but Will has killed Jared's potential Boulder base. But the rest of the district is clueless about this race.

What's more, Joan still has big support among Democratic Women (note to Thielen, notice the capitalized letters, I am not talking about women that are Democrats).

It takes 17,000 votes to win the Second CD. Joan will win. 85% chance.

Camera Endorsement - Polis sucks

2008-08-04T19:56:00.000-07:00

While Will Shafroth has benefited from other major newspaper endorsements, Jared Polis has managed to annoy and alienate large numbers of
Boulder County voters as follows:

1.) His phony pose as a progressive has been seen through because of his free market conservative ideology as evidenced by his call
for the privatization of the Post Office.

2.) Polis would not repudiate campaign contributors such as Alex Cranberg, the big oilman of Swift Boat attack ad on Kerry infamy.

3.) Jared is too full of ego and
new mega-money and thinks he can buy people. In Boulder County this will not fly.

4.) All along, whether in whispers, e-mail or
TV ads, the Polis campaign has attempted to smear Fitz-Gerald with a series of lies and
distortions about ties to Oil & Gas. It's a case
about a Big Lie. Please go to www.OpenSecrets.org
and learn more about Jared who is ethically challenged but thinks himself smarter than he
actually is.

Schafroth is most "boulder" candidate

2008-07-27T07:17:00.000-07:00

Denver Post Joins The Rocky Mountain News and Endorses Will Shafroth

"...overall, Will Shafroth is the best fit for Colorado's 2nd Congressional District."

"...what really impressed us about Shafroth was his measured take on the issues. His views are more realistic and consistent with the 2nd Congressional District..."

"Congress doesn't need more politicians. It needs more level heads, and people who are beholden only to their constituents. We think Shafroth fits that bill."

Egomaniac Polis probably will not pull it out this time, but he will be running the rest of his life until he finally wins.

Shawn Coleman, the Manchurian delegate

2008-07-21T08:51:00.000-07:00

Shawn Coleman, the Manchurian delegate. You think this guy is actually going to vote for Obama at the convention. The line is 3-2 that Shawn will not vote for Obama at the convention. There will be some imaginary slight by someone in the party. In fact, Shawn may not even a Democratic. He thinks that the party should revolve around his and because he thinks the party is all about him.

Remember Mo Siegell, yeah, the Celestial Seasons guy. He was elected DNC delegate for Dukakis from Boulder. But like Shawn, he is a self-righteous prick. And, he broke his promise to the caucus goers and didn't vote the way he was elected.

I see Shawn doing the same thing. Maybe he will read the New Yorker profile of Obama, an incredible article to read if you want to understand Obama. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza

Shawn will decide that Obama is just a typical Chicago politician (which thank god he is) and vote for some whacked out character.

David Thielen fails to understand Cindy Carlisle's conflict of interest

2008-07-21T08:29:00.000-07:00

David, a supposed progressive, and his right wing blog, completely fail to under why Cindy really is a creep. So her husband lawyer Baine admits that Cindy knew he had been retained by a client while she was running and he was in contact with CU representing a client as an adversary. She knew she had a conflict of interest.

This M-Fer is an Obama DNC delegate?

2008-07-18T12:36:00.001-07:00

Shawn Coleman endorses the Republican party in his blog:

"Boulder county is a for all intensive purposes a Uni-party county. Republicans rarely run and when they do they loose in a landslide. This is dangerous for democracy as well as the democratic party. Just because the conservative mindset is the minority does not mean they do not deserve representation. Further the "can't loose" mindset of the Democrats has created a system of spoils. The answer to potential candidates who would consider running for office is "wait your turn". . . . Apparently absolute power does corrupt absolutlely and the once hopeful progressive Boulder County Democratic machine is slowly becoming the Republican party it replaced. "

Was stupid Shawn Coleman even here when the Republican party was in power. Does Shawn remember Buzz Smith? Shawn is pissed because he was rejected by the voters for his ultra-pro growth views, which are completely out of touch with this community.

Clearly, this guy has no business being a DNC delegate.

PAC it away

2008-07-17T10:53:00.000-07:00

Jared Polis is the latest liar in Boulder politics. Despite his push as squeaky clean rich guy, he's been accepting money from PACs. Which is fine. He doesn't even need the money. But then he goes on the air and pushes a TV ad that touts he is not accepting PAC money. Story here at Channel 7.

He may be to dumb to be a Congressman.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/16707348/detail.html

Rollie Heath v. Cindy

2008-07-15T15:19:00.000-07:00

While no one of any consequence has endorsed Cindy Carlisle, (serial candidate Shawn Coleman doesn't count), everybody endorses Rollie. Why, because Cindy is creepy when it comes to working with others. Just look at this list, is there anybody left to endorse Cindy?

Alice Madden State Representative

Brandon Shaffer State Senator

Paul Weissmann State Representative
Gail Schwartz State Senator
Ed Perlmutter U.S. Congressman

Crystal Gray Boulder Deputy Mayor

Angelique Espinoza Boulder City Council Member

Macon Cowles Boulder City Council Member

Susan Osborne Boulder City Council Member

Matt Appelbaum Boulder City Council Member

Cindy Domenico Boulder County Commissioner

Ben Pearlman Boulder County Commissioner

Jerry Roberts Boulder County Assessor

Tom Faure Boulder County Coroner

Bob Hullinghorst Boulder County Treasurer

Michael Carrigan CU Regent

Stephen Ludwig CU Regent

Joe Pelle Boulder County Sheriff

Bob Sievers Former CU Regent

Laurie Albright Boulder Valley School Board Member

Patti Smith Boulder Valley School Board Member

Helayne Jones Boulder Valley School Board President

Ken RobergeBoulder Valley School Board Member

Stan Garnett Former Boulder Valley School Board President

Linda ShoemakerFormer Boulder Valley School Board President

Linda Jourgensen Former Boulder Mayor

George Epp Former Boulder County Sheriff

Michael Feeley Former State Senate Minority Leader

Leslie Durgin Former Boulder Mayor

Todd Saliman Former State Representative

Josie Heath Former County Commissioner

Frank Dubofsky Former District Court Judge

Jean DubofskyFormer CO Supreme Court Justice

John Tayer RTD District Representative

Cindy Carlisle endorsed by dopes

2008-07-13T10:21:00.000-07:00

Carlisle's election mailing arrived on Saturday, and her endorsement's read like a list of Boulder mediocrity. While there are some normal endorsements from cool people like Al Bartlett, she includes in her list of kudos, an endorsement from liberal pretender David Thielen, a person with no political experience, general cluelessness about Boulder, and no-progressive ideas when it comes to civility, open-space, and growth. The lack of elected officials, with the exception of a couple of counsel members, endorsing Cindy is telling that her reputation is poor. Relying on Thielen, Shawn Coleman, and Ken Wilson as your big supporters? Huh?

Cindy has a bad temper and has a reputation for loosing her friends. While if she wins the seat, she will be there for her 8 years, her letter and lack of serious endorsements shows she will get nothing done on her own. She simply can't play with other's nice.

Rollie's reputation as a "business guy" will hurt among Boulder's liberals, and most people have not figured out Cindy's bad temper. Can Rollie knock on enough doors to make a difference?

And guess what, comments turned back on so the dopes can respond!

Shawn Coleman shirt

2008-06-26T05:36:00.001-07:00

Yeah, so the guy is real proud to be a DNC delegate, but does he really need his own t-shirt?

Shawn Coleman finds his calling

2008-05-12T16:25:00.000-07:00

Shawn Coleman elected Obama delegate at 2nd CD convention. Finally, this guy finds his calling, which is national and state politics, not nasty local city politics. Shawn will never get elected to City counsel while he is under 35 years old, especially given his pro-growth positions and his pro-business positions on the downtown boulder planning commission Residents don't want some kid to tell them how to govern their city.

But state and national politics are different. Shawn should get out of poisonous city politics and focus on the state, where youth counts and broad ideas matter. Also, growth has a completely different meaning at the state level, where a broad environmental position is all that is needed for a Democrat. And people that wouldn't even think about having him on city council would happily have him in a state or national position.

David Thielin makes ass of self at Dem convention

2008-05-12T09:30:00.001-07:00

Political poseur David Thielin made an ass out of himself at the Second CD convention this last weekend, passing out cheesy home-made flyers with La Rouche like undertones. Will Schafroth actually rolled his eyes as David spewed out his political conspiracy theories.

Will the Second CD actually vote for this numskull? Not with 3 Obama delegates at stake, there were some really plugged in people running for delegate, and running a Boulder blog like David does is not exactly a way to get credibility with the party.

David Thielin - political dummy for National delegate?

2008-05-05T09:40:00.000-07:00

Republican liberal poseur David Thielin wants to be a national delegate for Obama, even though he endorsed Edwards on his little read web page. Why is David a Rush clone? And can David be trusted not to switch his vote and the convention?

David is untrustworthy. First, he endorsed Republican Bob Greenlee to run against liberal progressive Democrat Claire Levy for the state house. Why would any Democrat delegate want this type of person as a delegate. This is what he wrote about our Democratic representative.

"As to the Republicans, here is what you do. When it's time to select your candidate for this seat, wait until Bob Greenlee leaves the convention floor for a minute and then quickly vote to make him the Republican candidate to challenge Claire. That would be a great race." http://www.davidthielen.info/politics/2007/11/claire-ms-arrog.html

Second, he manipulates the news to fit his views, like Fox News Liberal councilperson Macon Cowles said said that as the one-man operator of his Web site, Thielen has the power to color the picture of candidates that voters receive, and he's not convinced he'll be fair. "I would not give Rush Limbaugh the chance to distort my record or my views, and I will not give that chance to Thielen, who is not 'Liberal and loving it!' as proclaimed on his masthead."

Third, he has posted extensively about electing Republicans in Boulder County.

http://www.davidthielen.info/politics/2007/09/its-time-to-bri.html

Coleman on building lots of stuff

2008-03-31T15:42:00.001-07:00

Finally, Candidate Coleman finally comes out as the extreme pro-growther that he tried to hide from the voters during last November's election. This is why you didn't win looser, your out of step with the city, with the exception of the reactionary bloggers that have turned this web site into an unreadable mess. With the Real Estate lobby endorsing such winners as Adam Massey and Shawn Coleman, neither of whom came close to winning, the council's restrictions on growth should come as a surprise to no-one.

Suzy Ageton; nosey librarian or city council member?

2008-02-20T22:20:00.000-08:00

Suzy's attempt to embarrass Crystal Gray at Tuesday's council member faltered, as her fellow council members gave her issues with Crystal a big yawn. The other seven council members basically said, Crystal is great, why are you bothering us with this crap. A clearly embarrassed Suzy Ageton responded that she was simply bringing this up to for the good of the community; but the rest of the council said this is none of our business and has nothing to do with us.

Suzy's busybody attitude may have been popular with past council members, but this council isn't going to tolerate this garbage. Crystal effectively defended her record, and Suzy came off like an ass. Also a big fug you to David Thielin, the only idiot in Boulder to care about Channel 7s yellow journalism; those in the know know that Crystal works 40 plus not just on council activities, and is was one of the most prepared council members on the last city council. (This city council is smarter than the last, so everybody is prepared).

Ryan Morgan, Daily Camera's lazy reporter

2008-02-09T06:46:00.000-08:00

This is one lazy Daily Chumpara reporter that is not headed for anything bigger in his career. Having met the reporter at many board and council meetings, he doesn't come off as a rocket scientist, more of a fratish party-boy. He shows his poor reporting skills today in his brilliant investigative story on the front page of the paper today. Take today's in-depth story on Crystal Gray.

Entitled "critics" want Crystal Gray to resign, Morgan proceeds to report on what one "critic" says on his local blog. That's it. No other critic is mentioned. One crazy guy and his crazy blog. I've got news for everybody, what David Thielin's puts on his blog is not even remotely reflective of public opinion in this town, if it was, we would have losers such as Shaun Coleman on council. Thielin has time and time again proven to be out of touch with this community, and regardless, the paper has no business reporting what he writes on his blog.

This is agenda driven reporting at its finest. The Camera is sore over lots of issues, mainly the new council's growth control positions, and this story is how the Camera attacks the council.

Boulder for Obama

2008-01-18T15:15:00.000-08:00

Looking at only South Boulder, Obama is cleaning up contributions from the South Boulder zip code. For those puzzled bloggers who don't understand who Boulder is and what its all abouts, these numbers are more revealing than listening to the same whiners that blog on the Camera web page. (people on the Camera blog may vote, but they are total fringe in the community)

Let's look at Hillary. Her numbers for south boulder are not as strong . Hill has about $8100 in contributions from:

1 Ahn, Natalie Boulder CO 80305 Information Requested $500

2 Deetz, Stanley Boulder CO 80305 University Of Colorado $500

3 Hartley, Judy Boulder CO 80305 Self employed $500

4 Heath, Josephine Boulder CO 80305 The Community Foundation $1,000

5 Heath, Josephine Boulder CO 80305 The Community Foundation $1,300

6 Heath, Stratton Boulder CO 80305 Self employed $500

7 Johnson, Rita Boulder CO 80305 Raymond James & Assoc $35

8 Johnson, Rita Boulder CO 80305 Raymond James & Assoc $500

9 Mandell, Victoria Boulder CO 80305 Not employed $500

10 Mandell, Victoria Boulder CO 80305 Not employed $100

11 Martin, James Boulder CO 80305 City Of Boulder $500

12 Martin, James Boulder CO 80305 City Of Boulder $25

13 Mccue, Ann Boulder CO 80305 Longmont United Hospital $101

14 Mccue, Ann Boulder CO 80305 Longmont United Hospital $500

15 Noonan, Carrie Boulder CO 80305 Not employed $500

16 Reynolds, William Boulder CO 80305 Next Century Software $50

17 Reynolds, William Boulder CO 80305 Next Century Software $50

18 Rosenthal, Diane Boulder CO 80305 Not employed $500

Obama has 49 contributors for a total of $13,000, including two people that maxed out their contributions.

The 80302 zip code is even more for Obama. He had 121 contributors, compared to 49 for Hillary. These results are probably going to mirror the caucus pretty closely, with Boulder's upper classes voting for Obama in big numbers.

Ron Paul continues attracted three contributors in the Boulder area, but they all gave big, for a total over $3,000.

David Thielin gave nothing to no one. Jerk.

Boulder for Obama?

2008-01-10T10:07:00.001-08:00

Its going to be a wild caucus in Boulder on February 5. With a neck and neck presidential campaign, who will win Boulder. Conventional wisdom is that rich liberals, that is us, will vote for Obama. Obama is the Paul Tsongas, Howard Dean or this election, but black, so he gets the upper class vote, which is what Boulder is all about.

But super strong Democratic women organization in Boulder will continue to partially back Hillary. So expect some strong Hillary support; however, I would be surprised if Hillary won more than one or two precincts in Boulder.

In Boulder, each precinct will only have four to seven delegates. So the delegates will likely split pretty evenly in each precinct. It will be tough for any individual to be elected delegate in a particular caucus, because both Hillary and Obama camps will want their people in. In 2004, lots of Kucinich people (well maybe 20) got to go to the county convention, because, there were plenty of spots. This is unlikely to happen, and Edwards and Dennis will be shut out of the county convention to a great extent.

East county and Longmont should make it up for Hillary.

The State convention should be even more interesting. With only 54 delegates going to the national convention, the split between the two camps will be pretty close

Edwards-no campaign in Colorado - convention

2008-01-06T09:24:00.000-08:00

The John Edwards campaign has been nearly invisible in Boulder, which does not bode well for the February 5, 2008 caucus. While both Obama and Clinton have been calling registered caucus voters (ie, only Democrats, in Colorado, independents do not caucus) on an almost daily basis, I have received no calls from Edwards, and there is really no place for supporters to volunteer. Edwards is running for the number two spot, but he doesn't have the money to sustain a campaign if he does not win in NH or SC, which won't happen. So Clinton, even coming in three in NH, will still go on.

This means it really is Clinton v. Obama on February 5. Clinton will probably loose NH and SC, though she might win Nevada, and maybe even Florida. Even loosing all four, she will stick around for super tuesday, and will try and win CA and NY. Super Tuesday, with over 1600 delegates selected, will be the deciding day for the nomination. The tide will be against Clinton, but a win in NY or CA on super Tuesday would wipe out any advantage that Obama may have by his early wins. The conventional wisdom is that the winner of IA and NH wins the nomination, but super Tuesday is big, and Clinton will have plenty of time to go negative on Obama before the big vote. If Clinton wins CA and NY, she gets the nomination, regardless of her losses in the small states, because her losses is the small states will be relatively close, delegate wise.

So, prediction, brokered convention with Clinton and Obama.

Iowa caucus results

2008-01-01T20:59:00.000-08:00

Results look to be pretty certain.

Clinton - 29%
Obama - 38%
Edwards 30%
Richardson - 2%

Boulder Convention Center - not this council

2007-12-30T16:37:00.000-08:00

Headline of the Daily Camera, "Council Shift may hamper convention center."

If you have been paying attention, this council is firmly against a downtown convention center. The city voters in rejecting out of towner pro-growthers like Shaun Coleman for council. There is a radical difference between the pro-growth Ruzzin council and the current council. Those on council who would vote against a downtown convention center:

Macon Cowles
Shaun McGrath
Crystal Gray
Susan Osborne
Lisa Morzel

further, Matt Apple would probably eventually vote against the thing as well. Just like current Wash School proposal the downtown convention center is dead dead dead. Ignorant David Thielen thinks the new council made no difference, but this is one issue where clearly the vote made a difference.

The real question is whether the council will be wishy-washy and support further study of this unwanted project.

Liberal and Loving David Thielin endorses Republican

2007-12-20T06:51:00.000-08:00

David has come out on his blog as endorsing Republican Bob Greenlee to replace Democrat Claire Levy in the statehouse. Read about it here.

Don Kirlin's fantasy world - 100 percent acurate prediction

2007-12-20T06:34:00.000-08:00

This case isn't going to settle. MiG pilot Donnie in the Post:

"Don Kirlin told The Post he believes they wanted so much of the lot so that the rest would not be big enough to build on. The Kirlins own a neighboring lot but had planned to sell one of the two in order to finance construction of their 'dream home,' he said. 'I would question the ethics and morality of somebody who thinks it's OK to take a neighbor's property,' he said."

Don and Suzy think they are in negotiations with McLean over the lot. But if you tell the other side they are immoral, then your not going into settlement negotiations with the right attitude. For some reason, the Kirlin's think because they are getting blogger support, they are going to win this thing.

I've got news for you Don, you have already lost. If you want to enter into negotiations where you might actually get something, you need to start eating some humble pie. Otherwise, you will get exactly what you got now. Your lawyer must think your nuts for continuing to make these types of statements to the paper. If anything, you should be quiet, and maybe you'll get something from McLean. But Don is clearly an egomaniac, and its unlikely that he can conduct himself civilly in negotiations.

And if the Kirlin's were smart, which they clearly are not, they would begin to regret the the blogger outcry and Camera coverage over this case. It is this outcry that has destroyed any chance of there being a settlement. If this was a normal case, that is, like the 100s of others that no one hears about, then Don might be able to file appeal and get something from McLean. At this point, the outcry has caused McLean to dig in his heals. Why settle with a jerk like Kirlin when you have already won?

Kirlin's fantasy house

2007-12-18T15:33:00.000-08:00

Suzy Kirlin says in the Camera:

"Several neighbors nearby held a protest of what they called a "land grab" after a judge ruled in McLean and Stevens' favor. Susie Kirlin says she thinks McLean and Stevens are willing to strike a deal to quell the public backlash surrounding the case, according to the report in the Daily Camera."

Susie and her rich MiG pilot husband are truly high if they think approaching settlement negotiations with this attitude will get them anything. The Kirlin's position going into settlement is really weak, and going into settlement negotiations with a pompous attitude that both of these spoiled brats have is unlikely to get them anywhere.

First, the Kirlin's should know that their chances on appeal are minimal, very few civil cases are overturned on appeal. Moreover, the Kirlin's have no legal arguments in their favor. The issues that the bloggers care about are mainly bs, and were never raised in the trial proceedings, so they can't be raised on appeal. The Kirlin's are really only complaining about factual issues. But these cannot be overturned on appeal. Remember, the judge found the Kirlin's to be liars.

Second, the public backlash against McLean and Stevens is minimal. Bloggers on the Daily Camera web page are not exactly reflective of community attitudes, and people of substance in this town really don't give a hoot. The bloggers are the same people over and over again, and the lazy Daily Camera reporters have made no effort to verify the fact that McLean and Stevens reputation in the community really has not been hurt at all. As reported earlier, most of those who are blogging or protesting are doing so because of various child custody disputes they have with the Courts. If you view the video of protesters, you are not viewing a video of community leaders or other people of substance in the community. You are just viewing a MiG pilot and his loony friends. Most people don't shout down the neighbors at protests, so the protestors have proven to be on the fringe. If anything Stevens is over-reacting to the supposed community backlash and she should just chill. In any event, this is not going to be a reason to settle.

Third, the Kirlin's will have to post an appeal bond. While these rich MiG pilots may be able to afford it, it is a real burden to have to put down an appeal bond prior to filing an appeal. McLean know this, and the incentive to negotiate prior to the appeal being filed will be minimal.

Fourth, its pretty clear the Kirlin's are lying about who offered five feet. Its clear that they were offered to settle for five feet, and now conveniently have forgotten that it was they who rejected the offer. This will not put the other side in the mood to settle. Remember the judge found the Kirlin's to be liars, so they are probably lying about this too.

So given all of this, the incentive to settle by McLean and Stevens is minimal at best. However, McLean is about a straight shooter as one can get. So my bet is that he does settle for the five feet offer, though if he is smart, he might require a public apology from the Kirlin's, oh, and attorney fees.

Strip Club to Open in Tom's Tavern

2007-12-16T21:00:00.000-08:00

Well nothing is happening worth blogging about, and then, a strip club opens on the mall! (If you if you think I'm going to blog about the congressional race for 8 months like dill-weed David Thielin is on his right wing Rush Limbaugh clone blog for 8 months, forgetaboutit).

The Bustop can't compete with a downtown club, so they are looking at going upscale and downtown. Why not Tom's Tavern. The home of the crappiest food in Boulder will continue to offer crappy employment to young women, waiting tables or stripping at Tom's, same difference. Tom's staff has no love for the place, expect few tears.

Washington School is hot. If the petition is ruled valid, it will require the City Council to reconsider a zoning change that allowed the project to go forward. If elected leaders decline to reverse that decision, the matter will go to voters — either next November, or sooner if a two-thirds majority of the council agrees to schedule a special election.

Idiots like Thielin think the council election changed nothing. Washington School will prove how different this council is from the last nasty council. The Wash School project is now officially dead, until the greedy developer starts working with the neighborhood on an acceptable project. The questions is how tone deaf is Jim Leach. He must realize this council will overturn the zoning change and he is back to square one. If he is smart, he will cave; expect a very fun council meeting where Wash School goes down.

David Thielin is the Rush Limbaugh of Boulder

2007-12-01T07:40:00.001-08:00

Republican liberal poseur continues to insist he is conducting an online debate for the Second CD. As soon as the candidates learn about who David really is, they will have no interest in participating in an online debate with this Rush Limbaugh clone. Call the candidates and tell them not to participate in this Rush clone's debate farce.

Why is David a Rush clone? First, he endorsed Republican Bob Greenlee to run against liberal progressive Democrat Claire Levy for the state house.

Second, he manipulates the news FoxNews like. Read what progressive Boulder city council member Macon Cowels says about David in the Camera. "Candidate Macon Cowles announced he wouldn't participate in protest of a Thielen post that labeled the slate of candidates endorsed by civic group PLAN-Boulder County the "mediocre seven." Thielen later apologized and re-wrote the post, which he said was poorly written. He said he used the word "mediocre" to refer to the breadth and depth of PLAN-Boulder County's slate of candidates, not the contenders themselves.

But Cowles said that as the one-man operator of his Web site, Thielen has the power to color the picture of candidates that voters receive, and he's not convinced he'll be fair.

"I would not give Rush Limbaugh the chance to distort my record or my views, and I will not give that chance to Thielen, who is not 'Liberal and loving it!' as proclaimed on his masthead," Cowles wrote in an e-mail explaining his decision. "Thielen's forum is a setup, so that Thielen will claim an air of legitimacy when he ultimately endorses the candidates that he has been fawning over since Day One both online and in public."

Finally, David and his family are conservatives. The only thing that David has ever taken a liberal stand on is global warming. So what? Otherwise, he is a libertarian that doesn't support any of the policies advanced by the Second CD candidates.

Apparently David Thielen comes from good old Republican stock.

Thielen is the daughter of longtime Windward Republican Rep. Cynthia Thielen, who ran unsuccessfully against U.S. Sen. Daniel Akaka. Laura Thielen managed her mother's campaign. (see below)

http://starbulletin.com/2007/07/26/news/story03.html

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Jul/26/ln/hawaii70726

I urge you to write both the Jared Polis and Bill Schafroth campaigns and ask them pull out of the despicable David Thielin's online debate. His blog has no journalistic value or integrity, and any serious candidate should ignore his blog and online debate. You can contact the congressional candidates that have agreed to the online debate at:

Jared Polis Email info@polisforcongress.com

Mail
PO BOX 4572 Boulder, CO 80306

303-381-0121

Shafroth for Congress

P.O. Box 982
Boulder, CO 80306
(303) 681-6333

David Thielin is a Republican

2007-11-26T07:27:00.000-08:00

Thought you all would be interested in this little tidbit I came across. David Thielen is the Boulder blogosphere's liberal-poser and master of guilt by association and, guess what? Apparently David Thielen comes from good old Republican stock.

Thielen is the daughter of longtime Windward Republican Rep. Cynthia Thielen, who ran unsuccessfully against U.S. Sen. Daniel Akaka. Laura Thielen managed her mother's campaign. (see below)

http://starbulletin.com/2007/07/26/news/story03.html

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Jul/26/ln/hawaii707260335.html

End is near for Leach's Washington School project

2007-11-21T12:09:00.000-08:00

The Washington School project is not long for this earth in its current form. The new progressive city council sent many signals that they are looking for a way to reverse Ruzzin's decision to allow the project to go forward. Despite the election of Wilson, there appear to be at least four votes to overturn the Washington School decision. They are Osborne, Macon, Matt, Crystal. One would assume that Lisa is also on board with council reopening the Washington School debate.

Matt A and Macon led the charge last night in pushing the city attorney to come up with a legal way for the council to overturn the prior council's decision. This may not be possible, the developer has a reasonable expectation of finality, and both new councilmen realize that current council may not be able to reverse the decision.

However, there is always the ballot. Leach's expectations of finality of the decision may only be a decision by council. If the petition drive succeeds, council may feel that they can preempt a ballot initiative and do what the petitioners want. However, without the petition, council may feel constrained.

So keep gathering those signatures. This new council will respond, and Leach's Washington School plans are not going to happen.

Polis to pull out of online debate

2007-11-20T18:31:00.001-08:00

Latest word from the campaign for second CD is that Polis will not participate in the online debate scheduled to be held by Thielin on his blog. Apparently, according to sources, their are two reasons Polis' campaign has decided to withdraw. (Polis is in Iraq).

First, the campaign read Theilin's attack on Claire Levy and endorsement of Bob Greenlee to run against her as a Republican and decided that he is not balanced and as a libertarian, not fit to moderate his one-man show "debate."

Second, sources say that his support of the Kirlin's and their loony supporters proved to be too adamant and uncivil. the campaign is convinced that David Thielin is the "George Bush of Liberals" and is unfit to provide a public platform.

Finally, the campaign was convinced by Macon Cowles analysis of thielin's blog. Clearly Thielin is setting up Polis for some bashing:

Candidate Macon Cowlesannounced he wouldn't participate in protest of a Thielen post that labeled the slate of candidates endorsed by civic group PLAN-Boulder County the "mediocre seven."

Thielen later apologized and re-wrote the post, which he said was poorly written. He said he used the word "mediocre" to refer to the breadth and depth of PLAN-Boulder County's slate of candidates, not the contenders themselves.

But Cowles said that as the one-man operator of his Web site, Thielen has the power to color the picture of candidates that voters receive, and he's not convinced he'll be fair.

Urge Daily Kos to kick rightie David Thielin

2007-11-20T07:23:00.001-08:00

Please write and urge www.dailykos.com to kick off David Thielin's posts from his web page. Kos is an important liberal national blog that covers national issues, with some local flavor. David pretends to be a Boulder liberal, writing on Kos that he is typical Boulder, yet Thielin is promoting Republican candidate Bob Greenlee, who has run against the great Mark Udall several times for Congress, as the candidate against our great liberal State Represnative Claire Levy.

you can reach Kos at http://www.dailykos.com/contactus

I suggest you send Kos the following message.

One of the diaries on your sight is from an extreme wingnut blogger that is supporting a Republican candidate against our progressive state representative Claire Levy. You can view what he has said about Claire in this post. http://www.davidthielen.info/politics/2007/11/claire-ms-arrog.html

As you can see from his post, Mr. Thielin is not a progressive, and really has no place having a diary on dailykos. While we all deserve a forum, these Republican attitudes probably are not best expressed through an important blog such as dailykos.
Because David is supporting Bob Greenelee Repbulcian run against liberal Democrat Levy, Thielin has no place on www.dailykos.com.

Also, write Jarid Polis and urge him to drop out of Thielin's online Democratic Party online debate for the Second CD. There is no need for Polis to participate in the FoxNews of Boulder online debate, its neither fair, balanced, or has any integrity.

And, you can contact David directly to let him know how you feel about his supporting a Republican State legislature.

Daily Camera Crystal Nacht Part II

2007-11-19T23:58:00.000-08:00

Nazi's like David Thielin probably don't appreciate Chris Brauchli's column below. In fact, Thielin probably doesn't know who Brauchli is, or that he was a columnist for the Camera for 25 years. For the rest of you, read it.

Subject: The disgracing of The Boulder Daily Camera
Reply-To: Christopher Brauchli's Weekly Column

The disgracing of The Boulder Daily Camera

Discuss this column at: http://humanraceandothersports.com/columns/395#comment

. . .

Clint: I have followed with dismay as the Camera has pursued a downward spiral ever since Colleen Conant left. I have watched as it proclaimed such significant changes as putting all local news in the first section and international news in the second section, and then proceeding to totally ignore its new format. I have watched as you struggled with the best location for “Dear Abby”. . . . I have watched as you have shrunk the editorial page until it consists of few editorials and fewer op ed columns. . . .

But of all those sad changes, none can compare to the contemptible behavior you have displayed during the last three weeks with respect to Judge Dick McLean and Edie Stevens.

Although I am in the same law firm as their lawyer and was a law partner with Edie many years ago, I have no familiarity with the details of their case. I know the outcome and like you, that is all I know. Like you, I have no knowledge of what, if any, discussions about settlement of the dispute took place. Like you, I am in the dark with respect to everything except the outcome. Unlike you, I have not because of my ignorance, inflamed the community and turned it into a howling mob and now a lynching party.

Bob Greenlee’s commentary was sufficient to awaken the mob. And you, in what has to be one of the most scurrilous examples of journalism ever seen in this town, have continued to feed the mob by making the story front-page news on an almost daily basis. Violating your own rules about “letters to the Editor” you have published an unending stream of letters attacking Dick and Edie even though most are duplicative and many vituperative. On Thursday the headline on the front page was “Couple will appeal ruling” and the accompanying story regurgitated the facts of the case. On Friday there was apparently nothing that you could dredge up to report so you wrote a “Who me?” editorial in which you first spell out what you perceived to be the outrageous conduct engaged in by the judge and the lawyer. You wrote: “As numerous observers have noted, it seems inappropriate for two ex-judges and an attorney-officers of the court-to have kno! wingly and “notoriously” trespassed on neighbors’ property with (apparently) the intent to seize it.” Thus having further incited the mob, you chastise it, piously proclaiming further in the editorial: “One needn’t excuse roguish behavior to urge zealous critics to take a deep breath . . .. [T]he critics’ extreme reaction discredits their cause.”

Clint, it is and has become the Camera’s cause. The very next day your headline has another front-page lead headline about Stevens’ reaction and next to it a discussion by lawyers of adverse possession to continue to inform and inflame. Today, Sunday, the front page advises the mob that there will be a lynching next door to the Stevens-McLean house on the empty lot that has been the subject of the lawsuit. You repeat all the facts about the case in case anyone is left in Boulder who has not heard the details you have so carefully repeated on a daily basis. You then publish the address of Edie and Dick and tell everyone they are invited to the lynching at noon today. You report that the aggrieved owner of the adjacent lot says she is buying lemonade to serve to those who show up for the lynching. Tomorrow morning I am confident your front page will have a picture of the lynching mob drinking lemonade and holding up signs attacking Dick and Edie. (Although this! is not about the mob, I would be remiss if I did not express my astonishment and dismay that a community that prides itself on its many liberal virtues would so quickly be seduced into rank thuggery by a two-bit newspaper.)

Clint, one hundred years ago in the South courageous people like you and others at the Camera incited mobs to lynching, piously proclaiming as will you, that you are simply reporting the facts and cannot help it if it inflames the public. Edie and Dick have received threatening e-mails and phone calls. The lawyer who represented them has received threatening e-mails and phone calls. And none of this would have been possible without your assistance.
Lest there be any mistake, I am not commenting on the merits of the respective positions of the parties. I do not know whether I would have followed the route chosen by Edie and Dick had I been in their shoes. I do know that because of what you have done the lives of those two people who have contributed so much to this community will never be the same. And for this they have not the court system or the lawyers to thank but you, Kevin Kaufman and the Boulder Daily Camera. You should hang your heads in shame. Chris Brauchli

Discuss this column at: http://humanraceandothersports.com/columns/395#comment

Second CD candidates should withdraw from online debate

2007-11-19T23:43:00.000-08:00

David's taking the Kirin's side in this matter shows he is the stupidest person in town.

Here is a bully name calling liar, fails to cover or even acknowledge both sides of the story, and calls long term leaders in our community, such as Edie Stevens and State Representative Claire Levy scumbags. David Thielin is a fringe blogger, and this dangerous man should be ignored by serious candidates for office.

I urge you to write both the Jared Polis and Bill Schafroth campaigns and ask them pull out of the despicable David Thielin's online debate. His blog has no journalistic value or integrity, and any serious candidate should ignore his blog and online debate. You can contact the congressional candidates that have agreed to the online debate at:

Jared Polis Email info@polisforcongress.com

Mail
PO BOX 4572 Boulder, CO 80306

303-381-0121

Shafroth for Congress

P.O. Box 982
Boulder, CO 80306
(303) 681-6333

David wants to moderate a Democratic party debate, yet this is what he says about our Democratic party represenative:

"This may actually be the most damaging outcome for Claire because it lets her think this is behind her while she still has not spoken to the issue. And her ending request to move on once again comes across as arrogant and unwilling to speak to the issue at hand.

Again, we will have to see how the next few weeks play out. Will Claire finally make a statement about her opinion of the land grab? Will this story stay front and center for awhile? Will a credible opponent run against Claire in the election?

But as of now I think her seat remains very much in play in the upcoming election. And if the Republicans nominate a strong candidate (hint - Bob Greenlee), then it's a real race."

So this supposed liberal is urging Bob Greenlee to run as a Republican candidate? David is a libertarian right leaning person, not the liberal he says that he is, and this statement of his proves it.

Suzy Q not elected mayor tongiht

2007-11-19T23:33:00.001-08:00

The final glory of the liberal take back of the council, Suzy not being elected mayor, will be tonight. Stay tuned for the live blog as Suzy takes the Gordon Riggle roll of the irrelevant member of council for the remainder of her career.

Remember, before the little shit became mayor, we used to have good mayors, say Will Tour anyone. Why Tour let turncoat ruzzin take over, i have not idea, and it cost Will some support, though at the county level, city politic pettiness just does not matter.

Crystal Nacht Boulder Daily Camera style

2007-11-19T22:58:00.000-08:00

Wow, the Kirlin's story of the loss of land has really created a non-story. While I am tempted to say that the real story is the protesters, who instead of say, protesting the death of 3800 American soldiers in Iraq, with no end in sight, yell profanity at a former judge about 140 square fee of land? Are you kidding!!. Do you think they are really mad about the loss of land, or do they have an agenda? Couldn't these people say protest our lame recycling program. For god's sake, fewer people showed up at the prairie dog protest.

No, the real non-story is the ineptitude of the newspapers to cover this story properly. First, the paper is only covering the Kirlin's side of the story. The paper claims that the other side is not commenting because of the litigation. Well fine . . . but they f(*&ing testified about the case in open Court, their side of the story can be listened to in the transcript. Did the reporter listen to this transcript? No story mentions what the Court concluded, that the Kirin's lied. Lying in Court equals loosing your case. This is clearly discernible from the Court ruling, yet is conveniently ignored by everybody (except the Court's). Moreover, there are over 1000 lawyers in Boulder County. There is also a nationally ranked top 20 law school. Why no reporter asked anyone at CU about this case is beyond amateur reporting.

Second, the paper is missing the total looniness of the Kirin's supporters. There is some genuine anger here, which is completely disproportionate to what is going on. The protesters, both at the property and on the Camera's blog, almost universally yell "judicial corruption", which is of course, complete nonsense. Even the Kirin's haven't leveled that charge, and any serious person reviewing the case would see that this is not an issue, they would have to produce some evidence of it. The looney bloggers allegation of a prior relationship is pure speculation. Has the paper investigated this? No. Why don't they ask the Kirin's attorney, Bill Kowalski, whether judicial corruptions is an issue. Did Kowalski make a mostion to recuse the judge? These are real stories, again, ignored by the paper.

Finally, this is yet another story that was started by the Camera, when in all likelihood, it should have been ignored. Where is Sue Deans when we need her? The story only got teeth when anonymous bloggers started writing about the story in the stories comments section. Yet, your talking about a minuscule number of people who care. There is not scientific data that bloggers comments in anyway reflect community thought. Yet the Camera though its web page let the vigilante mob take over and create a story where none existed.

That the blogs are completely irrelevant to how the people of Boulder are feeling was proven by the election. Certain bloggers like David Thielin thought they were all the hot shit, but in the end, their values where not reflected in the election results. That is because bloggers are a self identifying group that use the Camera's blog to get attention, they have nothing better to do, and the Camera lets this mob think they are some sort of majority when in fact, it is very very very few people in Boulder that have any strong feelings on this story.

The Camera need this bs with allowing commentors run away with stories. Both Thielin and the Kirlin protesters are none entities in this town. Let them start their own newspapers, but don't allow the Camera to become a forum for the uniformed and ignorant.

Second CD online debate on FoxNews Boulder Blog

2007-11-19T17:00:00.000-08:00

What a shock that two candidates have accepted Foxnews of Boulder David Thielin's invitation to an online debate. Why oh why does this idiot get attention from people in power? It is one thing for a community group or a newspaper to hold a debate. But why would a candidate for national office accept a debate proposal from a guy that has a blog? Thielin has no proven track record of an audience, and reading his blog, one gets the picture of a markedly out of touch curmudgeonly individual. All he does is shout his crazy ass opinions, but he doesn't make any attempt to bring balance or focus to any of the issues he discusses. Its just his opinion. He is not a journalist, and any candidate that participates in his forum has some serious problems with their scheduler.

This is just one guy blogging. One guy who is extremely libertarian and not particularly representative of Boulder. Hey let's have a debate, want to come. Next you can go to Rob Smoke's debate in his hot tub.

Most of the winning candidates for the city council election refused to participate in Thielin's online debate after learning what a jerk he is.

Thielin's blog has minimal traffic, say compared to a newspaper, or a community center. For god's sake, do the Aaron Harbor show, but Thielin's online debate?

Remember candidates, this is a man who called Boulder representative Claire Levy a jerk. He called former mayor McClean a scumbag. These are our community leaders, and you want to have him this namecalling jerk moderate your debate. This is a man who calls for a stronger Republican party in the city of Boulder so that he can have more choices of who to vote for, yet he wants to moderate a Demcratic Party primary debate. This is a blogger who called city councilman Macon Cowles a jerk.

This is the kind of even tempered person that should be conducting a debate? No its not. David is a right wing Nazi, no doubt about it, read his blog. He should have no part of Democratic Party politics.

If any sensible person from the Polis or Schafroth campaigns reads his blog, they will see that (1)
David Thielin is not a person with either deep roots in this community, and (2) that he is a cranky libertarian, (3) that he misrepresents facts, and (4) he is not fit to conduct an online debate.

So you have to question the competence of the Polis campaign for accepting this, it shows that Jarid really doesn't know what is going on, so it looks like we are going to vote for Joan.

Rich Boulder Jerks - Don and Susie Kirlin

2007-11-19T16:01:00.000-08:00

Who cares about the Kirlin's loosing their property, tough luck bozos. Watching the Camera video of this spoiled couple shows me why they lost in Court, they are a couple of pompous dill-weeds, and clearly they were terrible witnesses on their own behalf.

And, once again, I know what is going on, unlike the newspaper. Hello, Daily Camera reporter, asks some questions. A good number of the protesters are a loosely organized group of Boulder parents that have lost custody disputes in the Boulder Courts, and they are mad. They are also insane idiots. They think all judges are corrupt. How do they know judges are corrupt, because in "their case" they either lost custody, are paying to much in alimony, or have lost parenting time. This group of protesters regularly show up at judicial review commission meetings and complain about judges. None of their complaints are ever acted on, why, because they are not actually complaining about any justified problem with the judge, they are complaining about the result in "their case." Ask Daily Camera reporter, you will find these protesters all had cases in the family law area that they lost.

So Don and Susie Kirlin, I salute you, you jerks.

2007-11-14T18:19:00.000-08:00

Why Coleman is wrong again

2007-11-11T22:53:00.001-08:00

Shawn offers more tidbits of his wisdom on the Camera blog. In stating that a moderate like Suzy should be mayor, he states that the moderate"

". . . constituency is feeling a little burned over the outcome of this election and I think it would be a good gesture to begin the healing process between the "both sides of the isle" to appoint Suzy as Mayor, . . . Along those lines . . . Balance is still important, and Suzy is the lone "eligible" Mayoral candidate who represents a more moderate view on a lopsided council. Therefore the permanent seat on the Council Agenda Committee (CAC) would act as a natural balance to the rest of council's leanings."

This is not how politics works. Suzy was part of a majority that ran ruff shot over Gray and McGrath's ideas. Suzy also had a lot to do with Macon and Lisa's losses. So now to reward her, they are going to make her mayor? They are going to put someone who represents the other side in the most powerful position? Not likely. It's not as like Suzy was this fair moderate trying to bring everybody together. It's not like she had any interest in bringing balance to the council, whatever that is.

Balance is bullshit. You state your positions on an issue, compromise with other's ideas, and get things done. Compromise is not the same thing as balance. It happens after the fact, when competing positions give up something in order to get something. But making Suzy mayor because, well the minority least moderate voice on council should have the most important position, makes no sense.

I would, however, be in favor of renaming this piece of crap, pedestrian unfriendly building the Ageton Center.

Candidate Coleman speaks out

2007-11-09T10:35:00.000-08:00

Below is his recent posting on the Camera. See if you can spot why Mr. Coleman was not elected to council. While I am not calling him a sore looser, he certainly leaves that perception. But what I'm concerned about is that Mr. Coleman thinks he lost because of voter apathy. He lost because his ideas, whatever they were, were rejected. People do not vote for city council because you are offering to be "a competent member of city council." Shawn promised to do a good job and work for solutions. So what, everybody promised that. The candidates that won offered actual positions on issues; they offered a track record. A higher turnout would have produced exactly the same results.

"While I know a lot of folks who post on these blogs are unhappy with the direction that Boulder, and the Country are going, but now that the election is over we know that the Overwhelming majority of Boulder residents are decisively happy with the direction of Boulder evidenced by the Majority of the 34% that cared enough to vote for the status-quo and the 66% that didn't think the election was worth their time. The Tacit endorsement however is the strongest tool government can have, and therefore the biggest foe of public will. This is as true in Boulder as it is in the entire country. While you constantly hear criticism of the war, congress, and the president, it seems that this apparent "vocal majority" doesn't quite care enough to cast a ballot. Whether you like the outcome or not, it must be understood that if the input is the same, the outcome will be the same, ALWAYS. While I suspect voter apathy in Boulder is more a function of legitimate satisfaction, than disenfranchisement like in national politics (though their is disenfranchisement in Boulder and I have serious concerns about how satisfied the electorate will be if some policy changes are not made, and quickly, the revenue shortfall problem I talked about during the campaign is Boulder's number one quality of life issue, it's hard for folks to see that when the chickens haven't quite come home to roost yet, but I assure you they are on their way), voter apathy is exactly to blame for our democratic problems. And it took us a long time to get here, and it will probably take for things to get worse before they get better, and the upswing will take a long time too. The analogy I always make for the "self righteous non-voter" who is happy to complain about government is, "If you own a business, and your employees are doing a bad job, and you go out of business, who's fault is that" of course they answer the employees fault which gives you insight to the problem. The answer is of course that it's your fault because you are in charge, but getting that wrong is more evidence of the lack of personal responsibility that is so lacking in all things. And with an apathetic electorate void of personal responsibility, why should we be surprised that those who do get elected by and large are either incompetent, agenda driven, or truly think that "they know what's best" as opposed to folks who listen, care about public will, and are more interested in doing the job they we're elected to do, than do want it is that they want. Input=Outcome

Ollie Ageton for Mayor

2007-11-08T07:59:00.000-08:00

While Suzy desperately wants to be mayor, see Daily Camera article, she is too much of the reason the old council was ineffective. As noted in the Camera, special interests, i.e., developers, benefited from the council's failure to take initiative on any development issues, i.e. pop-ups. The old council was entirely reactive to city staff, and Suzy really cannot take credit for any proposal or initiative that council passed. In fact, did council projects get through in the last two years? For Suzy to be mayor, she must get Matt Applebaum's vote. One would think that Matt would not see any record of Suzy for him to take comfort in. Matt was part of a very active council, and served with several mayors, he is probably not going to see Suzy as fitting into the mold of someone who should be mayor.

Ageton also likes to boast that she and Ollie are the BOC elected council members. She paid back both the developers and the BOC by appointing Board members that were clearly unfit to serve. For example, she appointed actual developers with business before the planning Board to the planning Board. These appointments were made by a majority of Ageton, Tom, Ruzzin, Polk, and Stoakes. Suzy's four cronies are gone, and the new council member who see these Board appointments as ill advised are not going to see her as someone fit to represent the city as mayor.

Plus her finger pointing, ruler swatting style is just not Boulder.

Why I was wrong

2007-11-07T07:44:00.001-08:00

I have no idea why I was wrong. Yes, I correctly predicted the seven winners. But the utter collapse of the business vote is perplexing. Or is it? No, it was completely predictable. The only "biz" candidate to win had broad community support. Angie E. is known not only in the biz community and the fat cows over at Boulder Tomorrow, but by numerous other important communities, such as Sierra Club, Boulder Dems, Boulder Democratic women, etc. And as she states in the candidate, she is not really a biz candidate, she just happens to own one.

Biz canidates can't win with campaigns like Erik's. Suzy, Tom, Gordon, Polk and Jack Stoakes won because are not won trick ponies, broad community support is necessary to win. But when Biz tries to shove a candidate down our throats, they get creamed. Erik and Adam, the "other" Realtor candidates had zero broad base, and thus got stoaked.

But Erik has lowered the bar for biz candidates. At least Scott Gessler and Shelia Horton finished within a couple thousand votes of the winner. But Erik got utterly creamed, which shows that a biz candidate at least needs to mount a campaign to loose by a thousand.

Adam will not ever be able to win in this town. Phony baloney poseur candidates can be spotted a mile away and they do not win city council offices. They do win seats in the state legislature (ie., Ron Tupa) so we may see him around.

So F-you Ken Hotard, move to Broomfield where you belong. Yes, you thought since you bought Polk and Ageton that you were going to build a majority on council that would cancel the 55 foot height limit, etc., but that requires making your case, rather than trying to sneak in pro-development candidates. Citizens were pissed off by the pro-development votes of the last candidate, they were pissed that Ruzzin did nothing about pop-ups.

Macon and Lisa winning so easily this time is a strong indication of where the citizens of Boulder are on issues such as development and infill. Ken, Angie, and Susan Osborne were consensus candidates, that is both sides voted for them. But certain people voted against Lisa and Macon, yet they won a four year term. Why did people vote for these two over business types like Adam. Probably because their views are reflective of where we are as a city.

Adam and Erik and Ken Toadtard would have won easily in the east county or the burbs. But those place are failed cities for most of us, so why would we vote for them? Adam and Erik views on growth are held by the vast majority of Coloradans, so it is not exactly like we don't know what their views get us. We can look to our neighboring towns and see the failure of their policies.

Real story is women

2007-11-07T07:41:00.001-08:00

Hello, no newspaper stories about women now holding the majority of council seats. This is a big story, and will likely effect the dynamics of how council functions. Let's see a story on this.

State of Boulder

2007-11-07T07:09:00.000-08:00

Posted by darkcloud on November 7, 2007 at 7:53 a.m. on the Daily Camera

The people elected conform utterly to the views of the vast majority of Boulder, who are neither excessive social climbers, gay, nor all that liberal. They're tolerant, home oriented, value actual knowledge and respect smarts, and likely to support those values in their Council. Who knew?

It pains conservatives that Boulder has been a huge success without their exclusive rule, which their reading of the divine genetic code suggests cannot be.

It pains the Left they haven't been able to turn Boulder into a civil Antioch College of absurdity (despite sipped Kool Aid periodically) and allow them to be martyrs in various incarnations of class war failure.

Boulder continually, and politely, apologizes for its success. That REALLY steams the clueless. By which I mean the communities of Dickensian Architectural horror along 36, Denver and its satellite cities. Even Longmont and Ft. Collins have noted and installed some of the legislation Boulder was granted in the 50's and 60's to our great overall benefit.

We have been uncommonly lucky in our governments, and although MY slate wasn't elected, I do not foresee a descent into the gulags of socialism nor the jackboot regulation of heroic developments in this Council either.

Those so shocked by the results might want to conclude they neither really understand nor represent the city, on whose supposed behalf they start too many sentences with "Boulder wants....."

Who will be mayor.

2007-11-06T20:20:00.000-08:00

Now that Ruzzin is out, who will be mayor. The fact that women hold a majority on counsel, for the first time in years, if ever, will play a decisive role. All of these people are Democrats. All are liberals, but Boulder issues are divided on the peculiar lines of Pro verses Slow Growth and various business policies. Ranked from pro business to progressive, you can begin to parse it out who could be mayor. It will be one of these:

Least Progressive:
Suzy Ageton -
Angie Espinoza -
Ken Wilson -
Matt Appelbaum -
Shaun McGrath -
Susan Osborne -
Crystal Gray -
Macon Cowles -
Lisa Morzel -
Most Progressive.

The most obvious candidate for mayor is Ken Wilson, as the top vote getter. But he might tilt too much towards the least progressive side of the line to attract the five votes necessary. And its hard to imagine a veterans like Suzy, McGrath, Morzel and Applebaum voting for Wilson. Is a tradition of giving the highest vote getter the mayorship? Probably not. And he doesn't seem up to speed yet. So don't look for Wilson to be our mayor, despite all those ugly blue yard signs.

Likewise, Macon tilts to far to the Most Progressive side of the scale to be elected mayor. If Macon had won a four year seat, he would have been the top candidate. Angie getting only a two year term shows she is taking political advise from the wrong people, and will not be mayor for now.

Lisa's winning a four year term, after her sound defeat by Ageton in the special election, certainly shows she deserves to be mayor. But as the most progressive member of council, she might have difficulty attracting the fifth vote.

Applebaum would also have been a favorite if he had one a four year term. But the two year term puts him out of the running, unless he can build a coalition with the least progressive members Ageton and Angie. But such a coalition would have to include Ken and/or Shaun, and this seems unlikely. He finished seventh because of his personality, and the council members are all well aware of it.

So it seems that Susan, Shaun or Crystal will be mayor. All three are solidly in the center, and would probably attract all of the most progressive council members to vote for them as mayor. Ken and Matt and Angie could also could probably be persuaded to vote for one of them as part of a deal, i.e. Deputy mayor. Finally, all have won solid four year terms, and thus have shown a large measure of support in the community.

I just can't see Suzy being promoted to either mayor or keeping her Deputy mayor position. She now holds the Richard Polk/Gordon Riggle seat on council, and from this seat, the mayor does not come. If she puts her ego in check, she will probably not seek the mayorship from council; her defeat on such a vote is clear, without turncoat Ruzzin and Liqour Stokes to back her up. If Suzy doesn't run, the next mayor will probably get all nine votes. If she decides to run, at best she will get three. Four seems remotely possible, but this would assume that Matt would vote for her, and this just does not seem possible, absent some type of vote trading deal.

Correctly predict all seven

2007-11-06T20:09:00.000-08:00

Election results are in. Realliberalboulder, aka, ____ _______, correctly predicted the election results. This town is easy to read, just be involved. N'uff said.

Please do not read David Thielin's blog. Its crap. Its irrelevant. Stop reading it. Please. It's one mans musing, but it is not news, it is not important, it is nothing.

(Incidentally, my blog is not news, and you shouldn't be reading it either. Read the newspaper for gods sake).

This is my last post about David. I will never look at or read his blog again. David has gone the way of "Greatfull Fred" and Evan from Heaven, Boulder curiosities that just don't matter. While I don't hope the worst for him, he needs to shut the fuck up. Oh, and DailyKos needs to kick him where he deserves to be, not on that important blog.

Biggest out of touch blogger in Boulder

2007-11-06T19:17:00.000-08:00

Boulder blogger, Thielin, the FoxNews of Boulder, states:

"This is by and large the Boulder enviro-power structure. Angelique and Matt not so much but the other 5 are the establishment. With no real breadth on the council we are not going to see any significant change."

Wrong!! You don't know jack. There is going to be a huge change on council, towards slow growth, no conference center. Washington School would not have gotten through this new council:

Shaun McGrath - Enviro/ Mid Growth
Suzy Ageton - BOC/Pro-Growth
Ken Wilson - Split Enviro BOC / Mid Growth
Susan Osborne Enviro / Slow Growth
Lisa Morzel Enviro / Slow Growth
Angie Espinoza BOC / Pro-Growth
Macon Cowles Enviro/ Slow Growth
Matt Appelbaum Mid Enviro / Mid Growth
Crystal Gray Enviro/ Slow Growth

Now on council there are at least five environmentalists, maybe six. Ken and Matt will sometimes vote with the environmentalists. This will have major effect on Open Space, climate change policy, green building policies.

On the growth issues, there are three Middle ground Growth members. There are four slow growth and two pro-growth. This is a major shift. The last council appointed disastrous planning board members, actual developers with conflicts of interest. Don't see this to happen.

Old counsel, was radically different. Both the business community and BOC controlled the council. BOC had five votes, now at best they have three. Pro-Growthers controlled the council. This last council is why you see crappy buildings all over Boulder.

Shaun McGrath - Enviro/ Mid Growth
Suzy Ageton - BOC/Pro Growth
Ken Wilson/Burger Tom - BOC /Mid Growth
Crystal Gray Enviro/Slow Growth
Hottie Bohhanan Enviro /Mid Growth
Andy S. Enviro/Mid Growth
Tolk-A-Polk BOC/ Pro Growth
Liquor Jack BOC/ Pro Growth
Marked Ruzzin BOC/Pro Growth

So you see David, not only do you nothing about how this city votes, you have no idea about why the last council was a disaster and the dramatic differences this council will be.

Eugene Pearson - Under 25.

2007-11-06T19:07:00.000-08:00

Unfortunately, Eugene lost because of his age. Rich baby boomer home owner just ain't gonna vote for the younglin's. And probably less than 1500 people under 25 voted in this election. Age is a big problem for getting elected to a city council, which the voters take must be soneone that mirros them.

However, Eugene is part of this community, so you see a future leader here. Running the Boulder County AIDs project will endear him to this town and county, so he has a future in liberal politics.

While running for city council requires that the candidate mirror in age, income, and values that of the voter, the voters would love Eugene in the legislature. Hint: Run for the state house in 2010. Guaranteed win.

Good riddance

2007-11-06T19:03:00.000-08:00

The other big winner tonight is getting a council that reflects Boulder values. This means, no more Mark Ruzzin; one of the most out of touch politicians this city has ever had. Ruzzin pushing for more and more growth, more and more recreation, all in the name of green energy values, was the biggest piece of bullshit.

What's more, Ruzzin actually believed he was helping. Ruzzin was the reason the last council was a disaster, more so that Ollie and his dog Suzy.

Like I said earlier, Polk is not the only little shit leaving council.

Angie verses Lisa

2007-11-06T18:58:00.000-08:00

Lisa getting a four year term over Angie is a big victory for slow growth. But on this one, it is early, and at least possible that Angie could still win the four year.

Angie's poor showing, given her broad support, is also a victory for Plan B. It shows that a good portion of Boulder's smart liberal community is not going to put up with the "mom knows best" style of politician. Warning to you Ageton, this election shows that Boulder is not looking for council members to scold us.

My predictions, dead on, at 7:30PM

2007-11-06T18:33:00.000-08:00

I correctly predicted all seven winners. Hmm, maybe I know more about this city than, oh, David Thielin? Why, because I participate in it rather than sit in front of my computer blogging about something I know nothing about. I was off on finishing order, but not by much. My predictions verses actual vote totals.

1. Ken Wilson - Predicted: 10, 527 Actual: 7900 Predicted: Sixth place Actual: First place.
2. Crystal Gray- Predicted: 14,238 Actual: 7437 Predicted: First place Actual: Second
3. Susan Osborne - Predicted:13, 928 Actual: 7236 Predicted: Second place. Actual: Third
4. Lisa Morzel Predicted: 10,766 Actual: 6900 Predicted: Fifth Place Actual: Fourth Place

5. Angie Espinoza - Predicted: 11,355 Actual 6588 Predicted Third Place. Actual: Fifth Place
6. Macon Cowles - Predicted : 11, 287 Actual: 6508 Predicted: Fourth Place. Actual: Sixth Place
7. Matt A. Predicted Predicted: 10,456 Actual: 5450 Predicted: Seventh Place. Actual Seventh

Funny: Adam and Erik Rutherford are tied: at 2549! Hillarious! Tied for 11th!! This is too good. Even better, they are behind Shawn Coleman. Hopefully Eric is moving to Highlands Ranch, where he will be elected mayor.

What David Thielin says about Coleman

2007-11-06T18:23:00.000-08:00

On David's blog, he stated:

"Shawn Coleman - The official story is if you sit on a board or two, show that you are thoughtful, work hard, and are sufficiently liberal, then you will get elected by the system. Shawn has done all that. If he finishes within 2% of 4th place then the official story is legit. If he finished 5 - 10% below 4th then the official story is a bunch of B.S. and the real story is you have to be "one of us" to get elected."

One of what you dick. One of us means one of the community. Those elected have extremely deep roots in the community. Your analysis, like your predictions of Shawn's "easy" win is all wrong. Shawn lost because he is out of touch. Not because he is dumb. Not because he is not brilliant. But because he really does not know about the fabric of Boulder. Serving on a board, for one or two years, without really being part of the community is not enough. He is not a nationally recognized environmental lawyer. He is not someone who has fought neighborhood battles for years. He does not have a record on any issues. Did he doorbell any precincts. In short, he is not yet part of the political community in this town. Has he lived in Boulder long enough to influence any policy. No.

David, analysis of how politics works in a small town is simply out of touch with reality, but is based on a small blogger view of the world. If the bloggers knew what was going on, Gov. Dean would be president, and Shawn Coleman would be on council.

I was right, David was wrong. As expected.

2007-11-06T18:20:00.000-08:00

Wow, I was so on. David was so wrong. Shows what you know about local politics. After a night of gloating, i will explain in great detail why David Thielin's blog should be read by nobody.

Why Adam lost

2007-11-06T16:39:00.001-08:00

Adam Massey lost for one reason alone (other than he did not get enough votes).

He is not genuine. He is a complete fake, more interested in power and position than either helping this city or pushing genuine policy interests. If he had really believed in any of this positions, he would have won. But people can spot a phony a mile a way.

As an aside, who the F@#* votes for balance. Adam said "vote for me, I bring balance." The people that did vote for Adam didn't vote for him to bring balance to council, they voted because of his BOC stance or pro-growth stance (not exactly balanced positions). So at least the people that voted for this phony voted for him out of a policy they were in favor of.

Adam, however, is extremely qualified to be turned down by council, yet again, for a Board position.

Coleman Wins!!

2007-11-06T16:35:00.001-08:00

Shocking, but true. Shawn wins a four year seat, proving that I am a complete idiot. Competence and hard work counts for something.

Big Ego

2007-11-03T09:27:00.001-07:00

Candidates to vote against because they offer us their special leadership skills, as opposed to positions on issues. In other words, they think they are great and that we need them, because we are stupid and they know better. Good reason to kick them to curb.

Shawn Coleman
Alan O'Hashi
Susan Peterson
Rob Smoke (small ego, but crazy)
Matt Applebutt
Messey Adam
Nabil (great cook though, ego profession)

Real bigline revised

2007-11-02T07:41:00.001-07:00

The election is over. The winners have been determined. Though some of you may continue to vote, you will vote in the same proportions as those who have already voted. Big change is switch between Susan and Crystal, Ken and Lisa and Adam and Erik. All indications are that everybody is voting for Gray. Revised Coleman's numbers way down. Ken is getting pounded by the business community for his hill activities, this will cost him a four year seat.

Expect an extremely low turnout. 37 to 42 percent of registered voters.

Though the votes have not been counted, they will read:

1. Crystal Gray- 14,238
2. Susan Osborne - 13, 928
3. Angie Espinoza - 11, 355
4. Macon Cowles - 11, 287
5. Lisa Morzel - 10,766
6. Ken Wilson - 10, 527
7. Matt A. - 10,456
8. Eric Rurtherford- 8,688
9. Adam Massey - 8,200
10. Eugene Pearson 7,245
11. Shawn Coleman - 4,892
12. Larry Quilling - 4,678
13. Alan O'Hashi - 3, 764
14. Philip Hernandez - 2,876
15. Rob Smoke - 38.925
16. Pinback - 18 - http://www.myspace.com/pinback

Nail in Adam's Coffin

2007-11-01T14:37:00.000-07:00

David Thielin gets it right, realtor's endorsement is the nail in Adam's coffin. The big developer support of Angie Espinoza will probably not hurt her, given her deep Democratic party roots and human service support. She is also a small businesswoman, so her ties will not hurt her with most voters.

Rutherford's increase in name recognition, because of big developer support, will not help. Being pegged as THE developer candidate is not going to help, especially after the Washington School vote by council. With no broad support, he gets only the development and conservative vote, which is worth less than the 10,000 votes required.

Sorry folks, Coleman is going nowhere. Despite the paper endorsements, he simply is not well known enough and lacks a campaign. People do not vote for competence, they vote for people who support their positions. Colman is running as the competent candidate, which isn't enough. Further, blogging and going to candidate forums is not a campaign. How many people are volunteering for Coleman. Five, two, zero? I bet its one of these numbers. How many people are volunteering for Sierra Club and Plan B. 50, 100, 250? How many flyers did these groups send out. 40,000? Despite the supposed buzz around Coleman, he is going to be defeated soundly because (1) no campaign or money (2) he is not in touch with Boulder voters on the issues they care about, ie, the environment, growth and city services. Remember, the vast majority of voters do not know the candidates, and briefly reviewing the candidates, there is nothing about Coleman that stands out. People do not sit in the living rooms and decide "I'm going to vote for Coleman because he says he is going to do a good job"; instead they say "I'm going to vote for Lisa Morzel because she's against density development like Washington School and the Transit Village."

Endorsements of others

2007-10-24T15:35:00.000-07:00

To win a council seat, you need a strong base in the community and support from many different types of Bouderites. If you run for counsel, and focus on one group, you loose. My prediction is that this election will show the following about endorsements:

1. Daily Camera and Colorado Daily endorsements: The election will show that this endorsement is worth 2,000 to 3,000 votes. Coleman's lack of community base and campaign, but getting these endorsements, isn't enough to get him to the 10,000 mark. Shawn simply does not know enough people to win a seat. Cowles lack of the endorsement costs him, but he was already at 9,000 votes last time, so the hard work he has done means he will easily get the extra 1,000 votes he needs to win a seat, despite no paper. For Crystal, Susan, Ken and Angie, the paper endorsement puts them into the solid upper four spots, away from the bottom feeders that will get two-year terms.

2. BOC and FI-DOS. Polk won with BOC and the paper endorsement, getting 2,000 votes he lacked the last time. And he had a solid base in the community, with lots of connections, to different wheelers and "dealers". Massey is the new Polk in this election (not only because he smokes") but because he has gone after the recreation endorsement and he got 1/2 the paper endorsement. But does he have a base in the community? Or a girlfriend? These endorsements are worth a couple thousand votes, but there doesn't seem to be anything else. Without the years of building connections, serving on downtowns boards, etc., these endorsements will prove to not be enough. The candidates that will greatly benefit from these endorsements again is Susan, big Ken Wilson and Angie, who have such broad support, they will get twice the votes.

Some of the other candidates that were not endorsed by these groups will still do well because they have inroads into these groups membership. Macon's dog bites everybody, so he will get a good 1/2 of the FI-DOS members anyway.

3. PLAN Boulder, Sierra Bub verses human services- A candidate can be opposed by the slow growth movement and still win, but not if they are only a businessperson. Riggle, Burger Tom all had big inroads into the Human Services community to offset any of those small building people. Rutherford has no crossover vote from the environmental or Human Service community, his appeal is only pro development and pro law enforcement. Massey's crossover to the slow growth and Sierra Bub voters seems limited. Yes he bike commutes, but that's easy if your not working (and high).

4. Mark Ruzzin - Polk isn't the only little shit leaving council. Our know-it-all mayor has endorsed a number of candidates. Since 40% of the voters have no idea who the mayor is, it probably has not significantly helped either Ken Wilson or Adam Massey. Ken was already going to win, and so was Adam, if he had managed to "commute" to work.

The Real Bigline - the votes are in

2007-10-24T15:21:00.001-07:00

The election is over. The winners have been determined. Though some of you may continue to vote, you will vote in the same proportions as those who have already voted. Though the votes have not been counted, they will read:

1. Susan Osborne - 15,233
2. Crystal Gray - 13, 927
3. Angie Espinoza - 13, 255
4. Macon Cowles - 11, 287
5. Ken Wilson - 11, 101
6. Lisa Morzel - 10,766
7. Matt A. - 10,456
8. Adam Massey - 9,027
9. Erick Rutherfork - 8,487
10. Eugene Pearson 7,245
11. Shawn Coleman - 6,897
12. Larry Quilling - 4,678
13. Alan O'Hashi - 3, 764
14. Philip Hernandez - 2,876
15. Rob Smoke - 37

Espinoza bougth and paid for

2007-10-22T22:42:00.000-07:00

Recent letter to editor says it all:

Recognizing that large campaign contributions are used to buy political access and influence government actions, in 1999, Boulder residents passed a campaign finance reform law to ensure that large contributions will not cause corruption or the appearance of corruption in Boulder elections.

The law clearly states:

No candidate for city council shall solicit or accept any contribution, including any "in-kind" contribution, that will cause the total contributions from any person to exceed one hundred dollars per election.

But influential real estate developers are giving their pro-development candidates, like Angelique Espinoza, many times more than the $100 limit. Developer Lou DellaCava, for example, in addition to cutting Espinoza a personal check for $100 also gave her a $100 check from his DellaCava Hartronft Development Company, and another $100 check from the DellaCava Day Development Company, and another $100 check from the DellaCava Fox Creek Associates, and another $100 check from 2144 North Main LLC. Other Boulder developers and their attorneys such as Michael Berman and Bruce Dierking also used this scheme to provide Espinoza's campaign with multiple $100 checks.

Typically such contributions are presented in a single bundle to strengthen their intended effect. And true to form, public records show that all of DellaCava's contributions to Espinoza were received on a single day.

It's a bad sign when a candidate for city council chooses to circumvent our campaign finance laws. Angelique Espinoza could have returned all contributions in excess of $100, but she did not. And not only did her campaign accept the multiple $100 contributions, but those large contributions were used to apply, dollar for dollar, for matching funds from Boulder taxpayers. DellaCava's and Berman's $500 contributions, for example, were each matched with $500 of public funds, accounting for a large percentage of Espinoza's total.

Interestingly, Espinoza's website lists over 100 supporters, but none of the pro-growth developers and real estate speculators who provided her largest financial contributions are listed. A simple oversight? Or intentional deception? You tell me.

Ben Binder
Boulder

Rutherford developer money - bought & paid for

2007-10-18T07:46:00.000-07:00

There is little doubt who this candidate is representing, developers. His campaign money is coming from the usual developer suspects and lots of out of town money, from people hoping to make cash off of Boulder by building some crap, perhaps even a convention center

Boulder developers and landlords that contribute include

Tebo,
Boulder Property Management,
Gunpark Property Management
Two seperate Della Cava development companies
and 14 more developers, their spouses, and their companies.

Also, lots of money from out of town, including contributors from Cherry Hills, Lafeyette, Longmont, Denver, Aurora. What are all these out of town givers contributing to Rutherford for: How about to eliminate the 55 foot height limit, build 10,000 units at the transit village, build chaing stores, develop CU South. In short, make Boulder more like Superior or Highlands Ranch.

Read his latest list of out of town developer money at: http://www.ci.boulder.co.us/files/Elections/2007/rutherford_ce100907.pdf

And to you and your developer money:

http://www.geocities.com/ron8318/cashonly.htm

Why "Libertarian and Loving It" analysis is incorrect

2007-10-17T21:55:00.002-07:00

Because he makes his predictions without reviewing history, he knows nothing about how Boulder got to be the way it is.

Below are prior election results. To loose, 4,000 people who voted for Crystal last time are going to have to vote against her this time and vote for someone else, someone that does not happen to incumbents where there is no significant issue against such incumbent. Crystal is loved, so she will get her votes easily.

The past election results are show why Shawn has no chance, 7,000 more people are going to have to vote for him that chose not to last time. While he may have convinced some, most realize that his youth and conservative values are not the right fit for Boulder. Do you want to trust someone who has never owned a house with setting your property taxes? Most will answer no. Youth like Shawn's is a better fit for the State House, not the thrash em up issues for a city council. Most will see the Camera endorsement as the papers phony attempt at balance. At least Shawn is smart, and it speaks volumes that the paper couldn't come to terms and endorse Massey.

Past results show why Macon has a chance, look how Polk barely lost, then got it the second time.

Past results also show why Rutherford is another Scott Gessler. Gessler had a stronger campaign, but people were not going to vote for a Republican. Though Rutherford does not appear as conservative, he is still the developer guy, but his campaign is nowhere as strong as Gessler, who plastered the city with yard signs, robo calls and mailings. Maybe if I get a couple of mailings and a robo call I'll change my opinion, but Gessler did these things and it didn't help,. Maybe there is some massive demographic change since 2003, but this is a university town with massive federal lab presence, Rutherford, Buzz B and Theilin "liberals" really are not a significant part of this town, at least not to the point of consistently generating 10k votes needed to win.

The pro growthers that have won in the past, Ageton, Polk and Stokes, all had significant environmental support, and are people that were fixtures in the community for decades. Sierra Club endorsed Stokes. The Sierra Club endorsed Gordon Riggle. They all had the endorsements of former council members and mayors.

Rutherford, Massey, Coleman are outsiders at this point, they just are not the type of broad based people that are well known. Without the type of community support from the establishment, you don't get them to the 10,000 vote mark. Gessler and Shelia Horton are the type of well established biz and right leaning candidates that just cannot get to the 10,000 vote mark that biz candidates like Riggle could get to.

The biz candidates cannot win without crossover, and this has been consistent for at least 1995. Even burger Tom had difficulty winning the first time. The Biz candidate with crossover is Angie. The BOC endorsement may give Massey the appearance of crossover. But the Camera endorsement doesn't get Coleman the crossover that Ageton, Riggle, Stokes, Burger all had.

This is an pro careful planning, slow growth town. Angie and Suzy winning by a big margin does not change that. Further, these two women are significant players in the Democratic women's arena and are true liberals when one gets away from the planning issue and into the human services/national issues arena. Coleman and Rutherford do not have that. The rejection of the pro-growth agenda will be seen in the poor showing that Rutherford and perhaps Coleman will have in this election.

2003 results

2007-10-17T21:55:00.001-07:00

Mark Ruzzin	13681	11.64%
Crystal Gray	13657	11.62%
Robin Bohannan	13122	11.16%
Jack Stoakes	12564	10.69%
Andy Schultheiss	10877	9.25%
Shaun McGrath	10569	8.99%
Richard Polk	8822	7.51%
Scott Gessler	8014	6.82%
Jim Rettew	7931	6.75%
Jeep Campbell	6001	5.11%
Nabil Karkamaz	4647	3.95%
Chris Maurer	3794	3.23%
Lynn Segal	1821	1.55%
Carl "Go" Grodnik	1811	1.54%
Write-in Votes	230	0.20%

2005 results

2007-10-17T21:52:00.001-07:00

1. Suzy Ageton	14091	15.9%
10. Andy Schultheiss	13111	14.8%
4. Tom Eldridge	12915	14.5%
7. Shaun McGrath	12874	14.5%
9. Richard Polk	10484	11.8%
3. Macon Cowles	9462	10.7%
8. Eugene Pearson	6979	7.9%
2. Shawn Coleman	3832	4.3%
5. Nabil Karkamaz	3447	3.9%
6. John Klein	1572	1.8%

The Real Bigline - Boulder City Council

2007-10-17T09:18:00.000-07:00

Some Ballots have hit the voters' mailboxes yesterday. Here are the true odds of the candidates winning. Expect a very low turnout. It will take 10,000 to 11,000 votes to win a seat.

Susan Osborne (1:1) : Endorsed by all papers and the environmental groups, as well as BOC. Will be the top vote getter. Thielin ignores on his blog the power of the women's vote in Boulder, so Susan will beat out Wilson on this basis alone. Susan will get 15,000 -17,500 votes.

Crystal Gray (2-1) : Incumbent, all three newspapers, PB endorsement, Sierra Club endorsement. An incumbent at the city council level does not have to raise tons of money to do very well. She is personally known by several thousand voters, will benefit from the Sierra Club mailing, will benefit from the Plan B/Sierra Club literature drop, her name in all of the voter guides as endorsed, Democratic women power behind her. Zero chance she will not get a four year seat. David Thielin's blog has her doing poorly, but that is just silly. She printed her yard signs and literature, has ad buys in the paper; that's all you need. The only votes she will not get are those people actually voting against her. For Angie and Susan, even Shawn and Macon, when they first ran, as they are running now, voters have to actually be educated about who they are and the campaign needs to boost name recognition. This doesn't apply to Crystal, you know what your going to get with her, popular Boulder views and a dog. Crystal will get 15,000 to 17,000 votes.

Angelique Espinoza (3-1) : Angelique got a Daily Camera, Boulder Weekly & Sierra Club. endorsement. She won the Givem Hell Harry award last year from the Democrats, and though she is a pro-growther, this will be offset by the Sierra Club and Democratic women's vote. Angelique will be the development, ethnic, star of counsel, which will annoy Suzy to no end. Angie will basically kill Suzy's star on the council. Angie also benefits from the massive Sierra Club literature drop and membership mailing. However, her arrogant attitude will cost her the top finish. Angie will get 15,000 votes.

Ken Wilson (4-1) Will likely win a four year term. However, possibility of a slip to either Appleseed or Morzel, who are better known. No environmental enemies yet and squishy on the VMP means he could finish ahead of Crystal. But, university hill business people and landlords hate him, which will cost him 300-500 votes, putting him in 4th. Ken will get 14,000 votes.

TWO YEAR SEATS Remaining candidates are likely to compete for a two year seat.

Lisa Morzel (6-1): Lisa probably will beat Matt, simply because negatives are not as high as Matt's. Will the conservatives rally around Coleman, Massey and Rutherford. Doubtful, its a bit to late for these three to get a campaign going. If they do, we will have a very different city
ie, 55 foot building in all of downtown, stupid convention center, etc. Morzel has the basic liberal college town values that people here like. Her campaign is massive, and that gets you 9,000 - 11,000 votes.

Macon Cowles (28-1) : "Running as exactly what PLAN Boulder wants and that could be enough (which is a sorry statement about how people can vote here)." This is what David says, and I say, move to Highlands Ranch or Broomfield. People with the values of Thielin live in those places, which suck, and not here. Macon's strong campaign could get him more votes than last time, and the field is much weaker than when he last ran. He didn't get the Camera endorsement last time, and he needed it this time for a sure win, so he is on the edge. BOC and FI-DOS people will vote against him, again, no mountain bike and stinky dogs. Still, he should be able to get 1,000 more votes than last time. Macon will get 7,000 to 9,000 votes. But is that enough?

Matthew Applebaum (6-1) : Matt clearly has support and high positives (as well as high negatives). Matt knows he is the most qualified (and he is in some ways) and that both helps & hurts him some. He was a long shot to get a PLAN Boulder & BOC endorsement because he is a pro-growther to some extend, wanting to restock our city with new high density buildings, and he is not a nutjob, so he is not in line with BOC. Matt will get a literature drop from Sierra Club, big advantage to him, which may get him into the top 7. Matt will be in the 9,000 to 10,500 vote range. If the Rockies do well in the series, people may vote against Matt, because the feel good attitude is just not what Appleseed brings to the table.

Eugene Pearson (9-1) : PLAN Boulder and support among the human services community puts him up there. This is better than the BOC endorsement that Adam got, because it comes with a lit drop. But still young, in a city council election, young costs you, because you have not been around long enough for your neighbors to know you. Eugene will get 7,000 to 10,000 votes.

Adam Massey (9-1) : Adam is basically doing nothing. B.O.C. endorsement alone will not do the job because such endorsement only comes with an email, not a literature drop. Remember, Polk barely beat Macon, and he spent tons of money, got the Camera endorsement, and worked hard. And Polk only won by 1,000 votes. Adam f-ed up the Boulder Show for heaven's sake. Adam will get 8,000 to 9,000 votes, so right on the edge of winning.

Eric Rutherford (8-1) : Realtor money goes his way, so this is always a factor. But as Polk proved in his first run, developer money without a campaign or a reputation in the community gets you 7,000 votes. Rutherford will get 8 or 9, but still finish behind Pearson, even if Pearson does not get a seat.

Shawn Coleman (10-1) : Thielin's thinking Shawn will get this shows how little he knows about Boulder politics. I'll keep his odds at 10-1 given the Camera endorsement, which is worth at least 2,000 votes to Sean. But remember, you need 8,000 to 10,000 to win, he just doesn't have that kind of base to get there, and the paper/developer endorsement alone does not get you there. According to Thielin's blog "he seems to be doing everything right and he impresses virtually everyone he talks to (aside from the occasional wingnut)." The problem is that people seem to think Shawn is a little of a nut, why is someone so young so interested in city issues? is what they are thinking. While the other candidates and groups are nice to him, because he is such a hard worker, they are not going to vote for him. No endorsements from important groups, no literature drops, no money, he will finish well out of the running. And no campaign or door walking means unless you read the paper or go to a forum, you have no idea who he is. And then run again in 2009. With developer money, he would have had a chance, but the developers don't count on him yet. Coleman will get 4,000 votes.

Alan O'Hashi (15-1) : "Alan got a very strong endorsement from the Boulder Weekly and this puts his impressive record in front of everyone. And he has a very strong base of support." David, Alan does not have a strong base of support. Being well known and liked in the community is not a strong base of support. "Alan is the most likely vote for people tired of the same old candidates." Macon has way more support than Alan, and all of the endorsements, so this is a distinct disadvantage for Alan. Alan though, if he gets some help, ie, therapy, could be a future possibility. Alan will get 3,500 votes.

Rob Smoke (15-1) : Rob is definitely putting in a serious effort. But so what? Rob is the fringe candidate that everyone knows, but Boulder is not a fringe town. It is a nice safe middle class yuppie place. Sure, we all agree with Rob's views, but we wouldn't want to have to have dinner with him. So like Grateful Fred and Evan Ravitz, Smoke will go down. 1,500 votes.

Larry Quilling (15-1) : "Oh wow - endorsement from the Daily and an honorable mention from the Weekly. Larry is now definitely in play. He's also a Fairview parent and considered a nice guy by every other parent there that knows him - that is worth votes." Quoting from Thielin's blog. Its not worth enough votes, Fairview parents is just too small a group for any real meaning (how many parents are there that vote, probably not even 1,000). Larry may get 1000 votes off of this, but no campaign means he can't capitalize on the Daily endorsement. One paper endorsement is diluted by endorsements by other groups and papers, so few voters will really even consider Larry. Larry will get 1,500 votes.

Philip Hernandez (31-1) : "Philip is working at it and his fundraising remains impressive. No newspaper endorsements - that probably ends it for Phil." Thielin is correct. 1,000 to 3,000 votes.

Susan Peterson (41-1) : Got the PLAN Boulder endorsement. But she missed one forum and has missed a number of the Camera blogs. She may be hoping to coast in on that endorsement and that is a questionable approach. No newspaper endorsements - that probably ends it for Susan. Plan B literature drop, even with her poor piece, will get her 1,500 to 3,500 votes. Lisa and Macon and Matt voters will probably not vote for her in order to target their vote.

Kathryn Kramer (49-1) :Tom Riley (49-1) :Philip Bradley (60-1) :Seth Brigham (75-1) :Nabil Karkamaz (95-1) : Andrew Harrison (100-1) . None of these candidates will get more than the various Colorado Rockies write ins the clerk is going to have to deal with.

Shawn Coleman, not going to happen

2007-10-12T16:19:00.001-07:00

Thielin over at his blog has Shawn listed as a slam dunk for election. Not going to happen. Sean will finish in the 9th to 11th range.

1) Shawn has no money, therefore no campaign. Many people will not get their information from the internet, or by reading candidates pieces in the paper, but from their campaigns. This means literature, newspaper adds, and neighborhood buzz. If you have money and a campaign, people talk about your campaign and urge friends to vote for you. This has to happen on a reasonably large scale. Sierra Club/ Plan B have a hundred plus volunteers working on the ten candidates they endorsed, this creates buzz. Sean's campaign just does not have enough buzz to create a critical mass of interest to get people to even look at voting for him.

2) No important endorsements. Sure FI-DOS and the Camera endorsed him, but this just isn't enough, because these endorsements do not come with campaigns. A FI-DOS endorsement means a letter to their email list. So what? Many of the people on the FI-DOS list are going to vote, for example, Crystal anyway, for Christ sake, her f**^&ing dog has bitten half of Boulder. There really is no dog issue this campaign, everybody knows that council is not going to touch the issue after the VMP fiasco. So the FI-DOS endorsement doesn't get him that big block of votes you need. The important endorsements are the ones that come with buzz, (not Buzz), and therefore, FI-DOS just doesn't create it.

The Camera endorsement is worth 2,000-3,000 votes. Look at the toke-a-Polk-Cowles split from the last election, it shows the value of a Camera endorsement. If Coleman had the BOC endorsement, it could put him closer to the magic 8,000 to 9,000 votes a candidate will need in order to win seventh place.

3) He is a conservative. Thielin thinks that if a candidate can think for himself/herself, they are qualified. Well Dick Cheney can think for himself, but what he thinks we ain't interested in. Shawn's views just are not in line with Boulder.

4) Thielin's has Crystal finishing behind him, not going to happen. Crystal will get more than twice the total votes of Shawn, even if they both win. And contrary to Thielin's opinion, Crystal seems to go to every candidate forum, has money, too many yardsigns, and is the benefit of the Sierra Club/Plan B literature drop, which will drop 40,000 pieces of paper directly into your recycling in the next weeks.

Will Adam Massey loose it?

2007-10-12T16:03:00.000-07:00

The real question is whether Adam will loose the almost guarantee of a seat he had. This slacker had it all rapped up, tricking the business community/developers into thinking he is one of them. But his total laziness cost him the Daily Camera endorsement. While he was a natural for the Camera endorsement, the paper likes to endorse a balance of slow growth planners and downtown businessmen, and Adam and Angelique are the only two on the ticket, Adam clearly blew the interview. If he hadn't, he would have gotten the endorsement.

If you actually meet Adam, you know he doesn't have the stuff, and the Camera obviously figured this out. For heavens sake, they endorsed Shaun Coleman, a nice guy, but clearly too young and inexperienced for the job, over Adam. No Camera endorsement might be enough to move Adam down to the 7-9 place in the race, thus possibly costing him the race.

Remember, the guy also has no campaign. There are barely any Adam yard signs out, there will probably not be a targeted literature drop, if there is indeed any literature drop for Adam. He does not appear to have the money to do a mailing, and its getting way late to put one together. Adam had not appeared at many forums, and he is not walking precincts. His campaign will essentially be newspaper adds, the BOC email list, and the Boulder Realtor email list. In my mind, this means that 20-40% of the voters will have no idea about Adam when they vote, though they will have plenty of info on the other top candidates. This is simply not enough, the Real Big Line is going to have to move Adam off of the top tier down to the competitive level.

Sundowner tonight!

2007-10-06T18:53:00.000-07:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mgjZK46_uw

The Real Bigline

2007-10-05T12:40:00.000-07:00

This is how the race for Boulder City Council is going. Completely accurate predictions. Because only the horse race matters, not the policy.

THE REAL BIG LINE - Candidates are listed in the order they will finish.

Slam dunk - these candidates will win unless they are caught reading David Thielin's blog to Larry Craig.

Ken Wilson (1-1) : Ken is doing well in the yard sign war. However, no mailings or literature yet, but its still early. This weekend, the BOC people will put up their four pack of yard signs, so with his broad support, by Monday he will be winning the yard sign war.

Susan Osborne (2:1) : Susan has been around forever, she knows policy, and she has the endorsements of not only PLAN Boulder perfect County, but also those Burrell Outdoor Coalition (BOC). Susan is winning the yard sign war in central and North Boulder. East Boulder and Martin Acres are, thankfully, devoid of even Susan's yard signs. When the BOC four pack hits this weekend, see them signs start to spread. No mailing to me as of yet.

Angelique Espinoza (2-1) : Angelique has signs out. No robo call as of yet. Angie will do very well. Don't expect a lit drop from this business candidate. It will be mailings and robo calls.

Crystal Gray (1-1) : In a normal town, Crystal would finish first. But because Gray makes common sense decisions, BOC didn't endorse her. They prefer to back candidates that have no track record on anything. Would a real interest group endorse only candidates with no track record? They roll the dice and see if they get someone crazy enough to support their positions, i.e, (Suzy Ageton and Ollie!)

Crystal, Susan, and Ken will all benefit from the PBC/ Sierra Club lit drop. I have been told now that Crystal's dog died a couple of years ago, so that's why she didn't get the FI-DOS endorsement.

TWO YEAR SEAT: The FOLLOWING TWO will get a two year seat, they have enough support, but enough negative to keep them out of the four year seats.

Matthew Applebaum (5-1) : While Matt has support, he is disliked by people that have met him. But smart, smart, smart, in fact, smarter than the rest of council combined, minus Ken who is a scientist. However, he is disliked enough that he is out of the running for a four year seat and will only get a crappy two year seat. This will piss him off and he will resign. The Sierra Club endorsement will get him a limited mailing from that group, so it will help.

Adam Massey (6-1) : I have again rethought Adam. Adam might not hang on, let's see what type of work he doesn't do. While he is Lazy Adam Massey, the BOC endorsement will get him a two year seat. Thielin actually though Plan perfect Boulder County would endorse him. I say "Clueless!!", Adam never had a chance for that endorsement because (1) he is a slacker and (2) he is pro-growth and pro plus 55 foot height limit.

I'm going to vote for Adam, just to see the battle between him and Suzy Ageton. Without any big endorsements, he will not be able to do a lit drop. So he will either have to have money for mailings or organize his own volunteers, which will not happen. BOC probably does not have the resources to get its members to drop literature in more than few precincts, the city is big, and it takes lots of people. But biz community support should mean money for Robo calls and mailings.

THE RACE - THIS IS WHAT YOU, THE VOTER WILL DECIDE

You, the voter, have no control over the above six candidates winning. You will only decide who the seventh seat goes to. If Adam doesn't get money for a mailing, then he will move down into this group, and you, the voter, will have control over two of five council seats.

Lisa Morzel (10-1) : Lisa is number one for the seventh seat. Rob Smoke has pledged to vote her into office, just for the Lisa/Suzy A battle that will consume council. Lisa is a Real Environmentalists, Lisa is one, and Boulder has lots of them, ie. Sierra Club. Look for lots more signs and a lit drop coming soon.

Macon Cowles (11-1) : Barely lost to toke-a-Polk, so has a chance. But its a crowded field, so Macon is just on the margin. Loosing to Richard Polk is not easy, but he did it. His voters are the same as Lisa's, most will choose Lisa.

Sorry Macon, in a different year he would win. Macon could pull this one out, and beat Lisa and Adam, if he decides to do some hard work, which means door knocking, and talking to as many people as possible. Relying on yard signs, forums, Thielin's stupid blog, and mailings only gets you eighth place. The last candidate to seriously walk was Sean McGrath, and he won. Why candidates don't do this I don't understand. If your Ken Wilson, you don't have to, right now everybody loves him (wait till 2011 Ken, when you don't get the BOC endorsement). But Macon would win if a couple thousand people met him at the door. Its too late though, this should have started in July.
FI-DOS really should have ensorsed Macon, I have been informed that Macon's dog bags its own poop, in its own colon.

Eugene Pearson (10-1) : Gay in Boulder. Frankly, the gay scene in this town sucks; it appears all there is to do if your a gay man is run for office. (See Jared Polis). How you can stand us Eugene, I cannot fathom, we are not cool. Eugene will finish 9th. The wildcard here is whether the human service community is big enough to make up for the BOC people that will vote against Eugene.

Totally impossible. None of these candidates will win. None will get more than 1500 votes, except Susan Peterson, who will get 5000 to 6000 votes.

Susan Peterson (11-1) : Never heard of her. Plan Broomfield County endorsement meaningless without a good campaign.

Alan O'Hashi (19-1) : Who? Oh, I know this guy, he owns a computer, just like David Thielin. Cool!

Philip Hernandez (20-1) : Who? He doesn have yards sings

Philip Bradley (30-1) : Who? He doesn't live in Broomfield, I was told, but he does stop at the Arby's when he gets the muchies. Nudge nudge.

Shawn Coleman (99-1) : Young ambitious and only one of three minority candidates. Republican. Republican. Coleman will not win. Ahh, but in 2009 . . .

Kathryn Kramer (42-1) : Who?

Tom Riley (49-1) : Also owns a computer, and sends out emails.

Rob Smoke (70-1) : Oh, I know this guy. He tries to date women too young for him. I know this, because his myspace page is close to mine.

Seth Brigham (75-1) : Snore ., . . there still more candidates, give me a break, none of the remaining people have the slightest clue, let's just stop here.

Susan Webel and her horse

2007-10-05T12:30:00.001-07:00

The issues Webel raises about HCAs, and her lack of access to such land, is a red herring, and this argument merely plays into the hands of developers. Webel is simply exaggerating when she claims that land is being closed to her and her horse. With tens of thousand of acres available for her to play on, not just county land, but also city and federal lands, she can walk and hike and ride as much as she likes, in fact, she physically could never access all of the open public lands in the county if she spent every day of the year doing so. So what is her real agenda?

And the land wasn't bought just for your recreation missy. The vast majority of tax payers, surveys have shown, want Open Space to slow growth. If you acknowledged that this was one of the purpose of open space, then maybe you wouldn't seem like such a complainer. But its hard when you fail to face reality of why Open Space was created, and it is doubtful that your type ever supported the open space programs during its inception, that would be 1967. All of you who don't vote for open space taxes end up supporting to some extent, development of the land.

Remember, Open Space was never intended as a recreation program, it is merely a side benefit of the program, and environmental values also have to be considered. You didn't have access to the land before it was bought, so speaking of lost access is just "bs". So if you want the land to have houses on it, then vote against the tax. If you want to live in a Highlands Ranch type community, with no trails anywhere, then support Webel's argument.

How to be cool.

2007-10-04T19:36:00.000-07:00

Boulder is generally not cool, because its populated with older wealthy people who avoid the students by going to places like Rhumba and the St. Jule. That is not cool. Blogging is not cool, unless your Dailykos or Mydd, but run of the mill blogs like David Thielin's are not cool, because blogging it is pathetic.

My blog is cool because I call out Thielin for what he is, a libertarian, not a liberal. I would rather be doing something else, but someone has got to challenge the name-calling rightie Thielin for who he is.

If your're over 35, your not cool to anybody, unless your Clooney, and you would say not say "da bomb" instead of cool.

If you care so much about a city council election, it is certainly not cool.

So let's push it out a bit, try to be cool, and get a little present date cul-tura. Even though your aging and boring, listen to:

Lavender Diamond - Peace Love, etc.
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And get yourself a sweet ride:
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David Thielin is not a liberal or a progressive.

2007-10-04T18:20:00.001-07:00

David claims to speak for Boulder liberals, but you have to be one first. He's not a liberal, but a libertarian. In Boulder, being liberal means:

1. Being an environmentalist. Thielin doesn't believe in the precautionary principle, and claims that 98% of the people of Boulder agree with him. However, the precautionary principle is a bedrock of environmental science, supported by the Sierra Club and National Resources Defense Council. Prior to the rise of the BOC idiots, at least seven out of nine council members supported this principle (the dissenters being Burger Tom and Rich Lopez). The Sierra Club has just a bit more credibility on environmental issues than, say anybody. If you don't believe in the precautionary principle as it applies to the environment, then you are not a Boulder liberal. Example, David thinks Adam is a environmentalist because he rides a bike. Hello! Don't be stupid.

2. He thinks the free market should regulate itself. Hello! This is not being a liberal. Ever here of safety regulations?

3. He believes that individuals are responsible for their own fates. So if your Hispanic and poor and unable to get an equal opportunity, tough luck, its your fault.

4. He doesn't support Obama, Hillary, or Edwards. His views are pretty close to Ron Paul.

Anyone who calls himself a liberal, proclaims to speak for Boulder, yet is like outlined above, is a libertarian. And your certainly not a progressive. Mainly David is anti-intellectual.

The Real Big Line - UPDATED FOR THURSDAY

2007-10-04T11:10:00.000-07:00

As pointed out by my favorite uninformed blogger, there were many mistakes in my predictions, including grammatical, spelling, and incorrect political observations. So The Real Bigline has been updated and corrected. No more mean spiritedness, but just pure politics. Now with corrected odds of winning, because after all, in politics, its the horse race that matters.

THE REAL BIG LINE - Candidates are listed in the order they will finish.

Slam dunk - these candidates will win unless they are caught reading David Thielin's blog to Larry Craig.

Ken Wilson (1-1) : Davis Thielin has this this one right, he will win. Winning the yard sign war.

Susan Osborne (2:1) : Susan has been around forever dude, she knows policy, and she has the endorsements of not only PLAN Boulder perfect County, but also those reactionary jerks over at the Burrell Outdoor Coalition. (Buzz, you really are a XXXXXXXX loud and dramatic). She will be either one or two in the number of votes, or place third.

Angelique Espinoza (2-1) : Ok, David is good. You go girl, your going to win. And we need a hottie to replace cute Robyn Bohannan. Plus, she is the only Boulder Tomorrow candidate, and those upstanding Boulder developers have got to get behind one candidate. The probably can't all vote for Adam because, not only has he well, he's never had a job. (Adam apparently has abaondoned his slow growth position.) Angelique likes them buildings, and she likes up over 55 feet, thank you mam. If you think the West End sucks now, just wait until Angelique gets them buildin's. Angie will place THIRD. Angelique has lots of yard signs .

Crystal Gray (1-1) : In a normal town, Crystal would finish first. But because Gray makes common sense decisions, BOC didn't endorse her. They prefer to back candidates that have no track record on BOC issues. They want to roll the dice and see if they get someone crazy enough to support their positions, i.e, (Suzy Ageton and Ollie!)

Crystal will not be the top vote getter, as earlier predicted, but will come in fourth. Susan and Ken will do better, because they got the Plan perfect Boulder County endorsement, as well as the Buzz Burrel endorsement from BOC. Well liked by everybody, and out in the community, and yard signs everywhere, except for Martin Acres, South Boulder and East Boulder, as well as North. OK, yard signs only in downtown. She owns three dogs, all of whom bite, so why FI-DOS didn't endorse her, what a bark.

TWO YEAR SEAT: The FOLLOWING TWO will get a two year seat, they have enough support, but enough negative to keep them out of the four year seats.

Matthew Applebaum (5-1) : Thielin has this one wrong, while Matt has support, he is disliked by people that have met him. But smart smart smart, in fact, smarter than Suzy Ageton. However, he is disliked enough that he is out of the running for a four year seat and will only get a crappy two year seat. This will piss him off and he will resign.

Adam Massey (6-1) : I have rethought Adam. While he is Lazy Adam Massey, the BOC endorsement, and their brain dead members, will get him a two year seat. Thielin actually though Plan perfect Boulder County would endorse him. I say "Clueless!!", Adam never had a chance for that endorsement because (1) he is a slacker and (2) he is pro-growth and pro plus 55 foot height limit. Adam on council will teach us the meaning of slacker arrogance. Adam knows more that you, he really does, but he won't tell you why he does, because frankly, your not smart enough to understand. Him on counsel will be a hoot; Suzy Ageton will actually scowl and hit his hand with a ruler when talks!

THE RACE - THIS IS WHAT YOU, THE VOTER WILL DECIDE

You, the voter, have no control over the above six candidates winning. You will only decide who the seventh seat goes to.

Lisa Morzel (10-1) : Lisa is number one for the seventh seat. She is well known, and thinks Suzy Ageton is "difficult". She's got me and Rob Smoke's vote because well, because she is difficult. While David Thielin doesn't like environmentalists, Lisa is one, and Boulder has lots of them, ie. Sierra Club.

Macon Cowles (11-1) : Barely lost to toke-a-Polk, so has a chance. Loosing to Richard Polk is not easy, but he did it. His voters are the same as Lisa's, most will choose Lisa because of her better knowness. Sorry Macon, in a different year he would win. Macon could pull this one out, and beat Lisa and Adam, if he decides to do some hard work, which means door knocking, and talking to as many people as possible. Relying on yard signs, forums, Thielin's stupid blog, and mailings only gets you eighth place.

Macon should know that road biking doesn't count for BOC backing, it has to be a mountain bike. Buzz knows that if you don't run over 20 miles a day, your a wimp. And your dogs have to be fairly well behaved, i.e., poop is bagged in the dog's colon, to get the FI-DOS endorsement.

Eugene Pearson (10-1) : Gay in Boulder. Frankly, the gay scene in this town sucks; it appears all there is to do if your a gay man is run for office. (See Jared Polis). How you can stand us Eugene, I cannot fathom, we are not cool. Eugene will finish 9th. The wildcard here is whether the human service community is big enough to make up for the BOC people that will vote against Eugene.

Totally impossible. None of these candidates will win.

Susan Peterson (11-1) : Never heard of her. Plan Broomfield County endorsement meaningless without a good campaign.

Alan O'Hashi (19-1) : Who? Oh, I know this guy, he owns a computer, just like David Thielin. Cool!

Philip Hernandez (20-1) : Who? He doesn have yards sings

Philip Bradley (30-1) : Who? He doesn't live in Broomfield, I was told, but he does stop at the Arby's when he gets the muchies. Nudge nudge.

Shawn Coleman (99-1) : Young ambitious and only one of three minority candidates. Republican. Republican. Coleman will not win. Ahh, but in 2009 . . .

Kathryn Kramer (42-1) : Who?

Tom Riley (49-1) : Also owns a computer, and sends out emails.

Rob Smoke (70-1) : Oh, I know this guy. He tries to date women too young for him. I know this, because his myspace page is close to mine.

Seth Brigham (75-1) : Snore ., . . there still more candidates, give me a break, none of the remaining people have the slightest clue, let's just stop here.

Susan Webel of Longmont

2007-10-04T10:38:00.000-07:00

Susan Webel wants a trail around the east side of Baseline Lake, despite overwhelming scientific evidence that building the trail on the east side will hurt the bald eagles nesting on the east side. They will stop nesting there, which means fewer eagles. This is a fact that she either conveniently ignores, or more likely, will dig up false scientific evidence to dispute. Don't trust Susan Webel, in fact, Paul Danish wrote an excellent column for the paper some years ago explaining how she lied in testimony to the county commissioners.

Also be aware of BATCO, a self perpetuating organization, that probably is not a real organization, in the sense that it does not have an active membership, collect dues, file taxes, hold Board elections, or do things that a normal organization would do. There are probably not more than 12 active members. If your interested in hiking and the environment, join the Colorado Mountain Club, a real organization, that covers the entire state, with local chapters. They put on climbs and hikes, and have sound policies on the interaction between recreation and the environment.

Oh and Webel lives in Longmont. Why don't you clean up your own crappy community rather than tell us in Boulder what do to? Oh, that's because Longmont has no open space. Don't listen to Webel on Boulder policy.

The Real Bigline - Corrected and Updated

2007-10-03T16:31:00.000-07:00

As pointed out by my favorite uninformed blogger, there were many mistakes in my predictions, so The Real Bigline has been updated and corrected. No more mean spirtedness, but just pure politics. Now with corrected odds of winning, because after all, in politics, its the horserace that matters.

THE REAL BIG LINE - Candidates are listed in the order they will finish.

Slam dunk - these candidates will win unless they are caught reading David Thielin's blog to Larry Craig.

Ken Wilson (1-1) : Davis Thielin has this this one right, he will win.

Angelique Espinoza (2-1) : Ok, David is good. You go girl, your going to win. And we need a hottie to replace cute Robyn Bohannan. Plus, she is the only Boulder Tomorrow candidate, and those xxxxx upstanding developers have got to get behind one candidate. The probably can't all vote for Adam because, not only has he well, he's never had a job, but he is slow growth. Angelique likes them buildings, and she likes up over 55 feet, thank you mam. If you think the West End sucks now, just wait until Angelique gets them buildin's. Angie will place fourth.

Crystal Gray (1-1) : Correction, Crystal will not be the top vote getter, as earlier predicted. Susan and Ken will do better, because they got the Plan perfect Boulder County endorsement, as well as the Buzz Burrel endorsement (the Buzz vote, or BOC for those of us in the Know). Well liked by everybody, and out in the community, and yard signs everywhere, except for Martin Acres, South Boulder and East Boulder, as well as North. Ok yard signs only in downtown. She owns three dogs, all of whom bite, so why FI-DOS didn't endorse her, what a bark.

Susan Osborne (2:1) : Susan has been around forever dude, she knows policy, and she has the endorsements of not only PLAN Boulder perfect County, but also those reactionary jerks over at the Burrell Outdoor Coalition. (Buzz, you really are a XXXXXXXX loud and dramatic). She will be either one or two in the number of votes, or place third.

TWO YEAR SEAT: The FOLLOWING TWO will get a two year seat, they have enough support, but enough negative to keep them out of the four year.

Matthew Applebaum (5-1) : Thielin has this one wrong, while Matt has support, he is disliked by people that have met him. But smart smart smart, in fact, smarter than Suzy Ageton. However, he is disliked enough that he is out of the running for a four year seat and will only get a crappy two year seat.

Adam Massey (6-1) : I have rethought Adam. While his Lazy Adam Massey, the BOC endorsement, and there hallow brain dead members, brain dead from dehydration from their running trips with Buzz, will get him a two year seat. Adam on council will teach us the meaning of slacker arrogance. Adam knows more that you, he really does, but he won't tell you. Actually, him on counsel will be a hoot; Suzy will actually hit his hand with a ruler when he answer a question wrong!

THE RACE - THIS IS WHAT YOU, THE VOTER WILL DECIDE

You, the voter, have no control over the above six candidates winning. You will only decide who the seventh seat goes to.

Lisa Morzel (10-1) : She is well known, and thinks Suzy Ageton is a xxxxx "complicated". She's got me and Rob Smoke's vote because well, because she is complicated. While David Thielin doesn't like environmentalists, (and incidently, I will explain in detail why David Thielin is not an environmentalist, but a pro-growther, and a dip, in a future post) she is the only real one running. Unfortunately, the nutjobs at RMAD (animal defense club) seal her campaign up with some bad ideas.

Macon Cowles (11-1) : Barely lost to toke-a-Polk, so has a chance. Loosing to Richard Polk is not easy, but he did it. His voters are the same as Lisa's, and most will choose Lisa.

Eugene Pearson (10-1) : Gay in Boulder. Frankly, the gay scene in this town sucks; it appears all there is to do if your a gay man is run for office. (See Jared Polis). How you can stand us Eugene, I cannot fathom, we are not cool.

Totally impossible.

Susan Peterson (11-1) : Never heard of her. Plan Broomfield County endorsement meaningless without a good campaign.

Alan O'Hashi (19-1) : Who? Oh, I know this guy, he owns a computer, just like David Thielin. Cool!

Philip Hernandez (20-1) : Who? He doesn have yards sings

Philip Bradley (30-1) : Who? He doesn't live in Broomfield, I was told, but he does stop at the Arby's when he gets the muchies. Nudge nudge.

Shawn Coleman (99-1) : Young ambitious and only one of three minority candidates. Republican. Republican. Coleman will not win. Ahh, but in 2009 . . .

Kathryn Kramer (42-1) : Who?

Tom Riley (49-1) : Also owns a computer, and sends out emails.

Rob Smoke (70-1) : Oh, I know this guy. He tries to date women too young for him. I know this, because his myspace page is close to mine.

Seth Brigham (75-1) : Snore ., . . there still more candidates, give me a break, none of the remaining people have the slightest clue, let's just stop here.

The Real Big Line

2007-10-02T16:24:00.001-07:00

Some think that how much presence you have on the Internet is an indication of who will win the Boulder City Council election. Those of us in the know know that its how much involvement in the community a candidate has that makes a difference on whether they get elected. Thus, I present,

THE REAL BIG LINE

Slam dunk - these candidates will win unless they are caught reading David Thielin's endorsement of Ron Paul.

Ken Wilson (2-1) : Ok Thielin does know something about Boulder politics. This guy will win, oh, and no more liquor on the hill, ever. Unless your this tall.

Angelique Espinoza (2-1) : Ok, David is good. You go girl, your going to win. And we need a hottie to replace cute Robyn Bohannan. Plus, she is the only Boulder Tomorrow candidate, and those fascists have got to get behind one candidate. They can't vote for Adam because, well, he's never had a job. More below.

Crystal Gray (1-1) : Crystal will be the top vote getter, either one or two. Well liked by everybody, long term resident, experienced, connected to community groups. She owns like three dogs, all of whom bite, so why FI-DOS didn't endorse her, what a bark.

Susan Osborne (2:1) : Susan has been around forever dude, she knows policy, and she has the endorsements of not only PLAN Boulder perfect County, but also those reactionary jerks over at the Burrell Outdoor Coalition. (Buzz, you really are a pompass ass). She will be either one or two in the number of votes, or place third.

THE RACE: The remaining five people are competing for the three two year terms up. That means the two who loose will apply for planning board positions. Except for Matt, who will be writing more crappy columns.

Matthew Applebaum (5-1) : Thielin has this one wrong, while Matt has support, he is barely hanging on, the PBC endorsement should get him a two year seat. However, he is disliked enough that he is out of the running for a four year seat.

Lisa Morzel (3-1) : She is well known, and thinks Suzy A is a nosey b@tch. Got me and Rob Smoke's vote.

Macon Cowles (5-1) : Barely lost to toke-a-Polk, so has a chance.

Eugene Pearson (10-1) : Gay in Boulder. Frankly, the gay scene in this town sucks; it appears all there is to do if your a gay man is run for office. (See Jared Polis). How you can stand us Eugene, I cannot fathom, we are not cool. At least lesbian women in town have the Walnut Cafe.

Adam Massey (6-1) : Lazy Adam Massey. Actually, him on counsel will be a hoot; Suzy will actually hit his hand with a ruler when he answer a question wrong! Slackers need a vote too! Will definitely win a two year seat, because the BOC fascists endorsed him, and frankly, they gots nobody else. Did I mention he is lazy? But he rides a mountain bike, now that's awesome. Or a pathetic qualification.

Very unlikely - Totally impossible.

Susan Peterson (11-1) : Never heard of her.

Alan O'Hashi (19-1) : Who?

Philip Hernandez (20-1) : Whom?

Philip Bradley (30-1) : Who? Don't you livein Broomfield?

Shawn Coleman (99-1) : Young ambitious and only one of three minority candidates. Republican. Has no constituency. He has no experience. Why do people think they can be on council without first being part of the community? Coleman will not win. Ahh, but in 2009 . . .

Kathryn Kramer (42-1) : Who? See comments under Shawn Coleman.

Tom Riley (49-1) : A smart, thoughtful, articulate candidate, who thinks you can win elections by blogging. Meet your friggin neighbors dood.

Larry Quilling (61-1) : Who? Dude, apply for planning board first.

Eric Rutherford (60-1) : Who?

Rob Smoke (70-1) : Oh, I know this guy. He tries to date women too young for him. Bad move, move to Arvada, they like that there. MySpace is for those under 30, ie, not you. Rob will get less than 200 votes. I guarantee it.

Seth Brigham (75-1) : Seth is also putting in a serious effort. Ok, if you say so. Seth is so boring, I'm going to forget the remaining candidates.

David Thielin - George Bush of Liberals

2007-10-02T13:40:00.001-07:00

David Thielin has a Boulder Blog, and pretends to be a liberal. Its pretty clear that he is a reactionary and not much of a liberal; much like your typical idiot on the right. He is more of a Ron Paul or Linden LaRouche than a George Bush, because David actually tries to think, unlike president Shrub. But David Thielin only operates on instinct, without any background on how Boulder became what it is or how its politics work. So in that respect, he is much like the prez.

Hypothesis One - David Thielen knows nothing about Boulder politics.

Because David is a relative new comer to Boulder, he knows little of the history of Boulder. David, do you know what the blue line is? If you don't your opinions are seriously misinformed.

The greatest human being on earth, CU professor Al Bartlett, will explain to you the blue line, and how Boulder came to be what it is. Unlike David, I have a job, so I cut and paste from various web pages.

"In the late 1950s Professor Robert McKelvey of Mathematics and Professor Bartlett would talk occasionally about the problems that were becoming apparent as Boulder's population was growing from the 1950 U.S. Census figure of 19,999.

"The City Planning Board approved the subdivision plan for a new subdivision on the slope of Flagstaff Mountain west of 6th Street. College Avenue and 6th Street were both paved, but west of 6th, College was a gravel road that climbed steeply up the slope and ended perhaps a hundred meters up the slope. The subdivision in question was west of the end of the gravel road and could be accessed only by driving up the steep gravel road. When the Planning Board approved the subdivision, they sent the plans to the Council. Council approved the subdivision . . .

"I remember at a meeting, Bob saying,"This proves that you can't trust the City Council." This seemed to support our feeling that the Council would not really make the hard decisions that were needed to protect the people of Boulder.

Since then, Boulder has adopted a policy of controlled urban expansion. In 1959, city voters approved the "Blue Line" city-charter amendment which restricted city water service to altitudes below 5750 feet, in an effort to protect the mountain backdrop from development. In 1967, city voters approved a dedicated sales tax for the acquisition of open space in an effort to contain urban sprawl. In 1970, Boulder created a "comprehensive plan" that would dictate future zoning, transportation, and urban-planning decisions. Hoping to preserve residents' views of the mountains, in 1972, the city enacted an ordinance limiting the height of newly constructed buildings. A Historic-Preservation Code was passed in 1974, and a residential-growth management ordinance (the Danish Plan) in 1976

Boulder is only the way it is because of these policies, beginning with the blue line. If you do not support these policies, you are not a Real Boulder Liberal.

What do we have without these policies? That's right, you have crappy little towns like Highlands Ranch, Arvada and Broomfield, places I wouldn't live because of the crappy traffic and ugly homes. God, thinking of Broomfield just makes me want to crap, can you believe that f##%ing events center they put up.

But David thinks these places are neat, because there business friendly, and offer abundant recreation opportunities. And of course, wonderful places like Broomfield are there because they don't follow the preservation principle.

So one of the things David Thielin supports is a new conference center, right next to our farmers market. Hello! If anyone thinks this city can design a nice building for that area, then take a look at the "beautiful" Boulder One plaza, a total disaster in terms of asthetics. A conference center would be a disaster for Boulder, i.e., ugly eyesore.

In Boulder, being as pro development as David is is called "reactionary."

Next: Why Suzy Ageton is the Pat Roberson of Boulder politics. (But then again, I don't want to pear into Rob Smoke's bedroom, so go at it Suzy).

And: Why the Boulder Outdoor Coalition is selling out the environmental movement.